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Ryan Hall User is Offline
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20 Oct 2008 05:26 PM  

So I DO NOT SUGGEST THIS..... I was trying to understand the RAVE manual to figure out why my transfer box cant shift into low. I searched and searched for a relay or what not. I ended up finding what I thought was the one and swapped out for another one that was the same number. Nothing changed. Until I went to go pick my wife up from work. Got to her work and shut the rig off and opened the sunroof. She got in and wanted to put down the window and nothing happened.  All windows did not work as well as the windscreen heater, rear defrost and the fog lights. Not realizing at the time, since no change to my transfer box, the relay swapping could have done anything, I didnt even think about it.  I called Scott at Columbia Rovers and he wasnt sure what was going on. His advice was get it home, unplug the battery for a while and then hook it back up. Then it dawned on me that I had done the swapping of relays. DING DING DING i though, and swapped the relays again. Everything works fine now. Moral of the story is, Do not I REPEAT do not try electrical unless you know what you are doing. Thanks for your time Scott.

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20 Oct 2008 06:30 PM  
LOL!!! At least you remembered As for the time, no problem.

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20 Oct 2008 07:43 PM  

Apparently, I didnt get everything back to normal. The stuff that quit working in the first place, will now power up for a few minutes and then no power. Also when I was leaving my mothers house and the SLS lights and HDC lights came on for a few seconds then went off until I pulled into my driveway and they came on again for a few then off? WTF is going on with my Rover? I  am beginning to hate the "British Charm" it has and also think that its Britians pay back to the US. I have a friend in Japan who has the same truck and experiences absolutely no troubles what so ever. Any one have an educated guess?

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20 Oct 2008 07:58 PM  

What sort of condition is your battery/battery connections in?

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20 Oct 2008 08:01 PM  

The green dot is green and cables all look very good. No corrosion at all.

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20 Oct 2008 08:45 PM  
Thinking out loud... It doesn't sound like a short since you aren't blowing fuses.

Did you partially knock a connector loose somewhere? Maybe the SLABS ECU since the HDC is affected?
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20 Oct 2008 10:07 PM  

Didnt get into that side of the rig. I just dont understand what is going on.

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21 Oct 2008 07:32 AM  

I had a British vehicle in a previous life. I learned to hate Lucas.

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21 Oct 2008 07:36 AM  

Probably a dumb question but who and or what  is Lucas?

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21 Oct 2008 09:20 AM  

Lucas is probably the cause of half of Rover headaches. It (he) is the Prince of Darkness. It is always wanting attention and a poor lover in return. Lucas' law is the Murphy's law of Rovers, and many british vehicles originally coming out of the Rover Group.

Lucas smells like bad fish.

If you look at many of the electrical components of 90's Land Rovers, you will probably find LUCAS printed on them. That let's you know that his spirit lives in your vehicle. Similar to a poltergeist. I offer pork items and scotch to him occasionally as an offering to keep him happy.

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21 Oct 2008 01:36 PM  
Maybe I'm simple minded, but if I was in there messing with stuff, and a new symptom appeared, I'd be looking for something that came disconnected rather than a faulty part.

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21 Oct 2008 06:53 PM  

Thats what I thought be then I remembered that all I did was pull out relays  out of the fuse box and swap them. No wire moving or anything of the sort. I dont know enough about the "New" electrical systems. Im primarily used to old cars and 12 wires through out the entire car. very easy to rewire. But back to the point, I did try looking for wires that would have come unhooked and found nothing.

On another note Todd thats very funny. I will have to look for Lucas and then turn and run far far away.

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21 Oct 2008 07:11 PM  
Fortunately the DII electronics are simple. There are a lot of them, but they all work as you'd expect (unlike a Toyota), battery comes from the battery to the fuse/relay then on to the device and everything grounds to the chassis. Is there a specific relay/fuse in the box related to anything SLABS (HDC, ETC, etc)? If several components that are on separate relays/fuses are being affected then I'd double check that the relay/fuse panel is grounded correctly and that the lead wire to the battery is connected well and not grounding out, etc.

Are you sure you didn't unseat one of the relays/fuses? Is the fuse box grounded out? Did the relay that was fried, cause any damage to the fuse box? Did you short out one of the other fuses/relays in the process? Were you able to see what caused the original fuse/relay to pop?





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21 Oct 2008 07:29 PM  

The answer to the questions in uh not so much.... Havent checked into all of that. Yet.

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28 Nov 2010 11:38 PM  

So here it is a little over 2 years later and still cant select low range in the D2. Today I pulled out the center console to remove the solenoid to the transfer case to only be denied by lack of clearence to the bolts on the outside of the solenoid cover. I did however power the solenoid up with a small 12v battery and got it to move so I could shift into low. That leads me to believe that its a relay somewhere. After an hour of surfing the web, Im completely irratated by the fact that I cannot find where this duma** relay would be. Any ideas?

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29 Nov 2010 12:08 AM  
I believe all of the relays on the D2 are under the hood in the relay box. When I replaced my entire wiring harness, I don't recall seeing a relay anywhere else in the system.

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29 Nov 2010 01:38 AM  

There are a couple in the interior fuse box, a couple under the hood, and one under each seat. Not sure which is the one, or if any of these may be the culprit?! And so the search continues

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29 Nov 2010 08:19 AM  
I didn't know there was a relay or solenoid for shifting into low. I thought it was a manually operated cable connection, like on the DI's.

Hu, learn something new...
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29 Nov 2010 09:40 AM  
Ben, the solenoid doesn't operate the linkage, it acts as a lock on the linkage itself.
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29 Nov 2010 09:50 AM  
Ryan, remove the solenoid, period. They are prone to failing and leaving you stranded in either hi or low. If you ask most tech's, they will tell you the same. You can put the solenoid cover back on with sealant or make a blanking plate and seal up the hole the solenoid sat in.

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