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Brad MendenhallUser is Offline
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21 Jan 2009 03:39 PM  

I am hoping to tap the infinite wisdom of my fellow trekking nuts.  Just had Columbia Rovers install a new ARB winch bumper on my 02 Discovery II.  Now looking at winches.  Since I will potentially only use it a handful of times per year I don't need the top of the line.  Any suggestions...  Gorilla, Warn, Superwinch?  Like the new Superwinch Rock 95.  I have seen the other threads in which Superwinch was well liked.  Growing up on the farm we always just used a good sturdy come-a-long, but those are not strong enough for pulling a rig out of the mud.

Finding a refurbished unit would be great but hard to find.  Finding a used one all the better.



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21 Jan 2009 04:03 PM  
If you're in the greater Portland area, I'd sure give Warn serious consideration. We've got the benefit of the factory repair shop right in our backyard. Damage your winch, and for a token amount they'll go through it and even add any upgrades that were released for your winch.
I've abused mine a couple times, and found them super to work with. Last time, I got stuck in very deep water, soaking the winch thoroughly which caused it to seize up, and they repaired it in just a few days. You just take the winch directly to the repair shop with it's own door on the side of the Capps Road manufacturing facility, and Augie and Ron will take care of you.


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21 Jan 2009 04:06 PM  

You only need that cheap winch to fail once.

Think hard on this...would you buy a cheap crash helmet cause you think you might only need it once?

If you must cheap out, cut back on the Starbucks and go to McDonalds.

Just my $.02



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21 Jan 2009 04:13 PM  

I've used Warn's for over 35 years, and never a problem.  Rule of thumb is to guessimate the weight of your fully laden vehicle then get a winch with twice the pull capacity.  You guys on the westside play in the mud and water a lot more than I ever would.  But even with that consideration, I wouldn't go too far over the rule of thumb or you'll end up carrying a lot of unneeded dead weight on that new bumper of yours.

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21 Jan 2009 04:17 PM  

I have one of the Smittybilt  winches. The one I have is just a re-badged Milemarker. I have been very impressed with this winch, it has pulled me out of some nasty spots. I have done 3 consecutive 60'+ pulls up a hill with it and it wasn't even hot. My only beef with the winch was the cheapish cable(now replaced with Amsteel synthetic). I have the first series and now they are putting out their 3rd series which are ALOT better. Starting at around 300 bucks, it seem to be the best of both worlds.

http://www.smittybilt.com/product/index/38.htm



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21 Jan 2009 04:30 PM  

I found a Warn 8274 on craigslist for 300 dollars so good winches are out there for great prices..... it works great and I just had a little bit of cleanup and maintenance to do. I also have a (everyone cover you ears) harbor freight special  8000 Lbs chicago electric winch, that was on my F-350 for 4 years... the only problem I had was the wires in the solenoid pack rubbed together enough to wear and short. Luckily this did not activate the winch. I have since rewired the pack and its better than it was before, and installed some chaff protection. I have seen this winch next to the Ramseys and it looks identical.?. I have been told it is just re-badged, but I am not sure. I would not count on it very far out in the boonies as my only option.... but it is going in my rear bumper once I get it built.

I got the HF for $250 on sale, I paid $300 for the Warn used, I know which one I trust, but their both just another tool in the toolbox when you get stuck.


Here is a really good review of most of the name brands you hear around, read the whole thing and there are links at the end to the specs that they measured. bear in mind they took all the winches unproven out to the testing area.... so they had some failures that I believe are preventable just by going out and learning what your winch can do. Then these little flaws come out and you can fix them. This test was do or die. good reading either way

www.moabjeeper.com/articles/general/listing.cfm



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21 Jan 2009 04:49 PM  
I swear by my warn XD9000 - lightweight, solenoid pack can be mounted (and serviced) nearly anywhere you please. they are tough and will pull till the cows come home. ballerinas will dance about your vehicle while you spool in, and they will applaud you as you spool out. (wtf?) ok ok ... you get the point.

having said that, there are other fine choices out there. I think Superwinch has a pretty good reputation and would definitely be on my shortlist. The X9 is a fine winch and can be had for around $550 new. If you want a bit of overkill I recommend shoehorning a Pierce worm-drive from Britt, or check out a Superwinch Husky 10 - BEEF on either count, and both are hard working winches.

fwiw.
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21 Jan 2009 04:50 PM  
forgot to add: and whatever Craig is running. ;)


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21 Jan 2009 04:52 PM  
I have a Superwinch EP9.0 and I like it much better than my Warn HS9500i. However, that does not discount the Warn. Like Ike and Ed said, a good winch to swear by.

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21 Jan 2009 05:04 PM  

wow, thanks for the quick reply and great info.  Although I'm hoping there are no dancing ballarina's around when I'm winching...  I'll be wrapped up in the cable and taken to the looney bin.  (thanks for the image Isaak!) Oh and Morris, McDonald's does have cappucino's now so maybe I can give up my Starbucks and thus my yuppie loafers too!



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21 Jan 2009 05:24 PM  

I also have a Smittybilt winch.  Although a slow puller, it's a sure puller.  Not only was the price right, at around $300 but, for an additional $30 4WP (4 wheel Parts) gave me a "No questions asked unlimited liftetime warranty."   Drown it, set it on fire, they'll send you a new one.



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21 Jan 2009 05:44 PM  
Posted By Isaac Fain on 01/21/2009 4:50 PM
forgot to add: and whatever Craig is running. ;)


Ramsey RE12000 Worm drive winch.  To say that it has proven itself in the field would be a gross understatement.

 

 

 


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21 Jan 2009 05:46 PM  

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21 Jan 2009 06:21 PM  
I think the best way to evaluate winches is to determine what your needs for a winch are.

IMHO, planetary winches are good for pulling a few feet and then being wound back up. In a rockcrawling situation, planetaries are great. They are fast and have enough pull to pop you over a ledge. The downside is that they aren't the best alternative for long winching situations. They draw a bunch of power and will overheat. They have nowhere near a 100% duty cycle.

On the other end, you have worm drive winches and hydraulic winches. Each has its advantages and disadvantages compared to each other, but in a nutshell, they are both very good for no worry winching. They are extremely slow, though.

P.S. I really like Craig's winch.


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21 Jan 2009 06:48 PM  
I have a Superwinch EP 9. I love it and it loves me. I agree with Mike about the context of the winch's use. While I'm no rockcrawler, I don't mind myself heavily laden and pulling for long distances. I like the speed and initial cost of my planetary. I'm also glad to hear that people have had positive experiences with the "economy" winches. Most of us don't use enough of our winches anyway. Winchline.com often sells EP 9's packaged with their syn rope for a good deal. They're local to the Puget Sound area and they will repair your rope for as long as you own it. I don't know about their ability to service winches.

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21 Jan 2009 06:49 PM  
WARN!!! I have gone well past the 8000 pound capacity of my winch and she never even hicupped or growned! I do not recommend overloading any winch but this is a testament to the heavy duty construction of WARN products. I also prefer WARN because I like to buy local and since they are an Oregon company its like buying from a neighbor. All that being said, A friend of mine just bought one of those Smittybilt winches and it actually looks pretty quality.. Have not tested it in the field yet though.

...was that more than 2 cents worth???


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21 Jan 2009 07:07 PM  
With all the dampness over here, any rot issues on the synthetic line?
I am also researching winch options to stuff in my ARB- sure wish a worm gear would fit in there but ARB says no no no


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21 Jan 2009 07:15 PM  
Rot? The rope is synthetic so it's a non-issue. Their use in damp environments has been vetted through their marine applications.


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21 Jan 2009 07:25 PM  
Posted By Andy Berglund on 01/21/2009 7:15 PM
Rot? The rope is synthetic so it's a non-issue. Their use in damp environments has been vetted through their marine applications.



Just curious, thanks. My carpet is probably synthetic, but its still like a biology experiment.



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21 Jan 2009 07:28 PM  
It might stink, but it won't break down (the rope, not your carpet ;) ) I drive a Land Rover so I never have to worry about driving out of doors.

Andy


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