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CLK
 Basic Member Posts:148
 | | 23 Nov 2010 10:41 AM |
| Hi Everyone! Because the space in my vehicle is small & limited,... I'm considering purchasing an off-road teardrop trailer, specifically - The one made by Adventure Trailers. Intitially, I was considering one of their trailers - either the Horizon or Chaser,... but the more I've thought about it,... the more I'm liking the Teardrop. I'm single & have no kids, so I'm anticipating most of my travel will be by myself (excluding travelling w/ a larger group). As noted above, my vehicle isn't very large, so space is limited. I'm interested in doing mild off-road travel, as well as, longer hwy trips. Finally, for a variety of reasons - I'm not that interested in a RRT. The quick & easy setup of the Teardrop, compared with a trailer/tent combo is a big plus. Combine that will an enclosed/warm/waterproof sleeping area,... & it looks even better to me. However, the TD does have some drawbacks, including; it's not as rugged as the trailers (aluminum skinned wood vs steel construction) & becuase it is wood construction, crossing deeper water with it,... is not advisable. So, the TD is more susceptile to exterior damage, & it's ability to cross water is limited. I've spent some time browsing the site, including the photo section. I've only seen a few off-road trailers, & one teardrop trailer. Based on the types of regular trips done by the NWOS, how many would an off-road teardrop be able to handle with ease? I understand that on some of the more difficult trails, it probably would be more difficult. But based on the number of annual trips - How many could I expect to tow a Teardrop on,... wo/ too many worries & problems? Finally, for those interested - I would've included a link to more info/specs on the AT TD,... but as a newbie - I don't know how (yet) Cheers & Happy Thanksgiving! ~CLK |
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Grant Mossman
 Veteran Member Posts:1409
 | | 23 Nov 2010 12:21 PM |
| Chris, on the east side of OR and WA it probably would do well if dust can be managed. This side of the Cascades, though, it might be tough. There are several guys that have built trailers who may be able to give you first hand info. Clearance and manueverability would be my concern, with any trailer.
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| Craig Miller Posts:11799
 | | 23 Nov 2010 12:26 PM |
| You won't want to tow a trailer while learning to drive offroad. |
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| Nate Skate
 Advanced Member Posts:725
 | | 23 Nov 2010 01:10 PM |
| Before you drop that kind of coin on an AT trailer you might consider picking up a serviceable army trailer and giving that a go for awhile. I think Mike on here still has one for $700? I didn't mind light off roading with a trailer, but the added vehicle strain of hauling it over mountain passes, then finding parking, worrying about dead end single tracks on the sides of mountains, etc., made it sort of a drag. Some love the challenge and the geewhiz factor. I prefer the freedom of a roof tent. |
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| Morris Yarnell
 Advanced Member Posts:770
 | | 23 Nov 2010 03:45 PM |
| Yeow, I just checked the prices on those things. For that you can get another vehicle that would give you the room. I would second what Nate has said. Check out a very serviceable x-military trailer. They come up on ebay often and you are relatively close to a military base that has auctions often. Stick with nothing bigger than the 1/4 ton M416 type (the trailer is 500 lbs but it will haul much more). Easy to modify and it can be unhitched and rehitched on those dead end trails. Several of the members have them and I'm sure will be willing to give you help with choice and mods. I got mine several years ago for $700 from a private party. Check this out if you want to build for less, it's a good sort of where to start plan if you can do the work...http://www.asolidfoundation.com/ also here...http://www.webring.org/t/Teardrop-Trailers-WebRing?sid=64 Happy trails |
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| Todd Eliason
 Veteran Member Posts:3515
 | | 23 Nov 2010 06:00 PM |
| So Chris, I understand your dillema.. The teardrop is easy and cool, and will work for half of the trips done with the group. How handy to have a sleeping/storage place with very little setup. It will work very well for forest service roads if that is your goal. And I would be envious of your digs as I sleep on the roof or ground.
If you are looking to do more technical trips, I would recommend leaving the trailer at home until you are comfortable with the challenges it might present. Trips in open country with a trailer are pretty easy, trips with tight turns and trails may be more difficult. You can do what works best for you as this group is very understanding of "what works for me may not work for the next guy", and havng a trailer doesn't preclude you for trips that may not be trailer friendly - just leave it at home. I had a trailer I was going to build and scrapped it, but I still want to get a built out one.
So I guess I am not being helpful here but my point is do what works for you and you won't be judged by this crowd. If there is a trip where a trailer might be an issue, ask the leader and make your decision with knowing the implications in mind. Your single so you can always leave it at home and tent it once in a while. And if you do bring it, plan on having folks being envious as you sleep in comfort. If your doing this for your solo needs or trips you are leading for the group, do what is comfortable for you. There are plenty that would do trailer friendly trips in this organization. |
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| Nathan Henson
 Basic Member Posts:346
 | | 10 Dec 2010 12:31 PM |
| Chris, If you have seen pictures of a teardrop on thie forum, it is probably Mark's. He built it himself and would be happy to discuss teardrops with you. He might even be interested in building you a trailer. Check out his website for more information: www.overlandtrailer.com and when I mean more information, I should actually say a lot of information. If you don't get a hold of him on this forum, just contact him through his website. Nathan |
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| greekspeedoman
 New Member Posts:30
 | | 10 Dec 2010 08:27 PM |
| Chris,
I love off road camping with my teardrop trailer. I would be happy to help you find any info you'd like or to build one to your specs too. It is a convenient comfortable way to camp. It isn't anything to take on the Rubicon but still I can go most places without much trouble.
Here's an example video of a teardrop in action. We were at about 9,000 feet -if I remember correctly. On slate rock and pretty steep. The trailer did fine. Nathan Henson and Carl Greene were along for the journey as well.
http://www.overlandtrailer.com/2010/06/06/the-lolo-red-carpet/
Cheers,
Mark |
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| greekspeedoman
 New Member Posts:30
 | | 11 Dec 2010 11:59 AM |
| Chris, Here are a few more places to look. Some of my favs: http://www.outbackteardrop.com/ - Probably the original website for off-road build. WAY over built. http://td.roughwheelers.com/ - Dave and Louise's 4X4 teardrop (pictured below). They have tons of photos on their site and a pretty good design. Still overbuilt by way too much but quite functional. 

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| CLK
 Basic Member Posts:148
 | | 12 Dec 2010 12:16 AM |
| Posted By Grant Mossman on 11/23/2010 12:21 PM
Chris, on the east side of OR and WA it probably would do well if dust can be managed. This side of the Cascades, though, it might be tough.
There are several guys that have built trailers who may be able to give you first hand info. Clearance and manueverability would be my concern, with any trailer.
Grant - Thanks for the reply & feedback - I appreciate it!
In regards to the AT (Advanture Trailer) Teardrop, dust (so far) hasn't been a problem. Someone took one down to Baja for an extended & extremely dusty trip, with no dust getting into the interior of the trailer. As far as ground clearance, it has 24". Finally, I agree about the manueverability issue, plus the idea of having to be 'trailering something', & all the additional concerns that go along with that. As noted above, the main reason I'm considering a trailer is because the size of my vehicle (an FJ40) & it's size limitations. I've also considered putting a Maggiolina on the roof, but would rather not. Finally, having a trailer does eliminate much of the packing & unpacking for a trip. Simply keep the trailer packed & ready to go,... hitch up & roll! Thanks again! ~CLK |
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| CLK
 Basic Member Posts:148
 | | 12 Dec 2010 12:54 AM |
| Hey nate - Thanks for the reply! Re: the potential PITA's - No argument here. I ordered this vehicle (TLC ICON FJ40),... then started getting more excited/interested in Overlanding. I really like the vehicle & am going to have/own it,... that said, I realize it's not the best platform for extended Overlanding trips. So, I'm looking for ways to make it work better. Re: getting an Army trailer first - Because of where I live, I don't have alot of room to work on &/or store projects (no 3 car garage). I have a single enclosed garage (for my daily river) & an outside space, barely capable of fitting my ICON & a trailer. So, I don't/wouldn't have the space to store/keep a military tralier, should I decide not to use it. Re: A RTT - I have considered putting a small Maggiolina Air Top on my ICON. My roof dimensions are 69" front-to-back & 59" side-to-side. The small Maggiolina is 51"x83",... So, I'd have about a 13" overhang. It could be done. However, it would create wind noise & change the weight distribution of the vehicle, & therefore, the handling dynamics. Aesthetically, it would change the lines of the vehicle. Also, it would be something that I'd have to leave on (see storage above,... plus I'm single & taking it on/off would be a hassle). Finally, my family (brother & his family, plus my parents) do occasional RV trips. For me, a Teardrop would work better (vs a military trailer, or RTT) for doing these types of trips with the family. Thanks again for your take! ~CLK |
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| CLK
 Basic Member Posts:148
 | | 12 Dec 2010 01:01 AM |
| Posted By Morris Yarnell on 11/23/2010 3:45 PM Yeow, I just checked the prices on those things. For that you can get another vehicle that would give you the room. If I get the "Overlanding Bug",... I just might have to get another vehicle! Thanks for the info Morris! ~CLK ps - Love your rig! |
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| CLK
 Basic Member Posts:148
 | | 12 Dec 2010 01:34 AM |
| Posted By Todd Eliason on 11/23/2010 6:00 PM
So Chris, I understand your dillema.. The teardrop is easy and cool, and will work for half of the trips done with the group. How handy to have a sleeping/storage place with very little setup. It will work very well for forest service roads if that is your goal. And I would be envious of your digs as I sleep on the roof or ground.
If you are looking to do more technical trips, I would recommend leaving the trailer at home until you are comfortable with the challenges it might present. Trips in open country with a trailer are pretty easy, trips with tight turns and trails may be more difficult. You can do what works best for you as this group is very understanding of "what works for me may not work for the next guy", and havng a trailer doesn't preclude you for trips that may not be trailer friendly - just leave it at home. I had a trailer I was going to build and scrapped it, but I still want to get a built out one.
So I guess I am not being helpful here but my point is do what works for you and you won't be judged by this crowd. If there is a trip where a trailer might be an issue, ask the leader and make your decision with knowing the implications in mind. Your single so you can always leave it at home and tent it once in a while. And if you do bring it, plan on having folks being envious as you sleep in comfort. If your doing this for your solo needs or trips you are leading for the group, do what is comfortable for you. There are plenty that would do trailer friendly trips in this organization.
Hey Todd!
All fair & good points,... & I appreciate the "cool attitude",.. which this group tends seems to extend! Since my vehicle won't be completed for about 6 months,... I have some time to try & figure out, "my setup". Other than purchasing my vehcile, I haven't made any other choices/descions yet. However, facts are facts, & for extended trips & Overlanding, the size of my vehicle, necessitates that I "add", at least sleeping space (if I don't want to sleep on the ground,.. which,... I don't think I do). That leads me to consider; RTTs &/or trailers. As noted above, a RTT (by necessity & laziness) would become a permenate fixture on the vehicle , which I'm not crazy about. Hence my leaning towards a trailer, which presents it's own issues & limitations. And finally, in the realm of off-road trailers, there's the option of the more traditional Trailer (an AT Horizon Trailer w/ RTT) or a Teardrop. And each have their own trade-offs - Most simply,... the Teardrop is more comfortable & convenient,... but the traditional trailer is more rugged (less suceptible to body damage) & probably has more range. I'm just doing my "due diligence" on the different options, but personally have very little "real world" experience, hence my request for feedback, from the members here. And I appeciate all the replies, pros/cons & opinions from everyone! Thanks again to Everyone! ~CLK |
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| CLK
 Basic Member Posts:148
 | | 12 Dec 2010 01:41 AM |
| Posted By Nathan Henson on 12/10/2010 12:31 PM Chris, If you have seen pictures of a teardrop on thie forum, it is probably Mark's. He built it himself and would be happy to discuss teardrops with you. Nathan
Yep - That was the one!
And at the time - After seeing it here,.. I did some more digging & found his website. Thanks! ~CLK |
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| CLK
 Basic Member Posts:148
 | | 12 Dec 2010 01:57 AM |
| Posted By Mark Janke on 12/10/2010 8:27 PM Chris,
I love off road camping with my teardrop trailer. I would be happy to help you find any info you'd like or to build one to your specs too. It is a convenient comfortable way to camp. It isn't anything to take on the Rubicon but still I can go most places without much trouble.
Here's an example video of a teardrop in action. We were at about 9,000 feet -if I remember correctly. On slate rock and pretty steep. The trailer did fine. Nathan Henson and Carl Greene were along for the journey as well.
http://www.overlandtrailer.com/2010/06/06/the-lolo-red-carpet/
Cheers,
Mark
Hey Mark!
Appreciate the info & offer! I've come across you & your build while doing research. Seen the movie clips & read the blogs. I believe it was you that I followed over to the "Teardrops & Tiny Travel Trailers" site (I joined & posted a few questions!) You obviously have alot of experience & info, which I'd like to tap - So thanks for offering your help! As far as "production builds", I've mainly looked at the AT Teardrop. There are also alot of "custom builds" out there, as you know. I've gathered - You are one of the best! I'm still reading, gather info & learning. I sincerly do appreciate your offer to help,... & will be taking you up on it! So, initially - What are your thoughts on/about the AT Teardrop? Things you like/dislike? Thanks again Mark for replying to my thread! ~CLK |
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| Craig Miller Posts:11799
 | | 12 Dec 2010 02:13 AM |
| For solo trips consider a lightweight and easy to store Oasis RTT. Your FJ is huge compared to a backpack, so consider packing backpacker style for food/clothes/cookware, add in a dual sport kermit chair, recovery gear, and tools. After several years of a vehicle that was FULLY equipped with all the Overland gadgets I took several trips last year using this simpler method. I was in a Jeep with my son and packing this way worked great for us. The simplicity of it meant we spent a lot less time fussing with gear and a lot more time enjoying our experience. |
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| CLK
 Basic Member Posts:148
 | | 12 Dec 2010 04:54 AM |
| Posted By Craig Miller on 12/12/2010 2:13 AM For solo trips consider a lightweight and easy to store Oasis RTT. Your FJ is huge compared to a backpack, so consider packing backpacker style for food/clothes/cookware, add in a dual sport kermit chair, recovery gear, and tools. After several years of a vehicle that was FULLY equipped with all the Overland gadgets I took several trips last year using this simpler method. I was in a Jeep with my son and packing this way worked great for us. The simplicity of it meant we spent a lot less time fussing with gear and a lot more time enjoying our experience.
Thanks Craig! That may be a could solution, for short technical trips - which I wouldn't want to tow a trailer on.
I did a quick search, but couldn't find their (Oasis Tents) website, or where they're availble for sale. Any ideas? Thanks again! ~CLK |
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| Craig Miller Posts:11799
 | | 12 Dec 2010 12:31 PM |
| Contact Marc Bowers on this website. He used to distribute them here in the US and may still know if/where you can get one. Otherwise you have to have one shipped in from France.
Edit: search google with the term "Oasis Tent". The first link looks promising. http://www.everythingsuv.com/oasis_tents_main-esuv.asp Definitely not as sexy as the traditional tents, but they are small/lightweight but still off the ground. I do want to point out that despite the similar appearance these are WAY better built than a tent cot. Quite durable. I'm going to put mine inside basket style roofrack and get a cover made that's black instead of cream.
Craig
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| Craig Spaeth
 Basic Member Posts:436
 | | 12 Dec 2010 01:28 PM |
| I know you are saying no rooftop tents but I am going to just throw out two quick points. When we got our Overland tent I bought the ceiling lift from them as well. It is easy to mount, just some pulleys and good quality chord. It takes about 5 minutes to lift the tent off of our rig and it stores neatly on the ceiling of the garage until the next trip. (Only works if you happen to have clearance.)
One other thing that I have found from the few longer trips that I have been on. I own a fairly rare rig with original paint on it. I started out very concerned about scratching up the paint all the time. I was always asking about if a trip was going to be a paint scratcher or not. What I came to find is that it is really hard to tell ahead of time exactly what kind of trail you are going to get into. In many cases by the time the bushes were scratching down the side of the rig we were far enough in that there wasn't really anything I was going to do about it. I would guess the trailer could be sort of the same thing. Hard to gauge if it is going to be pain until it is too late. I have finally ended up with another vehicle that I am not nearly so particular about and my learning curve and enjoyment have advanced greatly.
Just some more thoughts. Those teardrops are very cool!
the other Craig |
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| CLK
 Basic Member Posts:148
 | | 15 Dec 2010 12:05 PM |
| Posted By Craig Miller on 12/12/2010 12:31 PM Contact Marc Bowers on this website. He used to distribute them here in the US and may still know if/where you can get one. Otherwise you have to have one shipped in from France.
Edit: search google with the term "Oasis Tent". The first link looks promising. http://www.everythingsuv.com/oasis_tents_main-esuv.asp Definitely not as sexy as the traditional tents, but they are small/lightweight but still off the ground. I do want to point out that despite the similar appearance these are WAY better built than a tent cot. Quite durable. I'm going to put mine inside basket style roofrack and get a cover made that's black instead of cream.
Craig
Thanks Craig.
I found one (Oasis II tent) new, & locally. Whether I get a TD or not, it will be nice to have a lightweight RRT,.. as an alternative, that I can take on more difficult trails (where I wouldn't want to tow),... or on short overnight trips. I've read your positive comments about this tent, & that helped persuaded me to find one & buy it - So Thanks! ~CLK |
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