Grant Mossman
 Veteran Member Posts:1410
 | | 18 May 2011 07:23 PM |
| OK so I just can't invest enough time to write a blog on this, so here's a condensed gear review/ lessons learned post: - Sidewall Tears: We had one vehicle with vulnerable tire/wheel combo on the Colockum attempt this time. Normally this probably would not have been an issue, but the somewhat severe conditions mother nature provided made it a problem resulting in several sidewall punctures. Enter ARB's SPEEDY SEAL TIRE REPAIR KIT. Glad I had the opportunity to practice with this at the NWOS 1st annual memberwide ho-down, cause I don't know I would have bought one otherwise. This kit managed to plug a .5" sidewall tear enought to limp the vehicle down Little Brushy to the creek crossing. The tear grew, but we kept mashing plugs into it, and got the truck all the way back from the creek crossing to Parke Creek Road and into Ellensburg. Money well spent, the kit delivers.
- Reseating on a muddy rim: OK so we also had one heavy truck... and though Scott wisely asked for air to air up his tires I never got around to it. Lesson A: 3/4 ton trucks should not air below 25 psi, maybe more. Lesson B: listen to Scott. Lesson C: when Scott spits a tire but manages to keep it somewhat on the rim, even though its full of mud and water, a well placed ratchet strap and the last 50PSI in a CO2 tank will reseat it... and it'll hold! We cleaned the bead as best as we could, cranked the largest ratchet strap as tight as it would go, then let pressure do its job.
- Gloves: For the first time in a while I managed to keep my hands somewhat clean and mostly warm. I'd bought some cheap chemical gloves for use in the snow, and they worked great in the mud and rain. They cost 3.40 at the Work'n More... I'm gonna grab a handfull next time Im there.
- Wade Now or Tow Later: it was worth getting a little wet to get a good handle on how swift and deep the stream was BEFORE we put another vehicle into it. I'd much rather be a little cold for a little while than have had to drag Kevin or Terrance's flooded truck all the way out of the east end of the Quilomene. Thanks, Caleb for the pic
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Thomas Bellomo
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 | | 18 May 2011 08:27 PM |
| Wow - what an adventure! have you recouped yet? That's good to hear about the ARB tire repair kit. I have been meaning to get one but haven't known which brand to go with. It would be just my luck, having my OBA finally installed and then get a puncture with no repair kit! Did this trip make you rethink your emergency kit? Anything that you wished you had in case things went worse? Or would have been really helpful if you were in the same situation? It sounds like I might have to buy you a beer to get all the details! Thomas |
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Scott Bruder
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 | | 18 May 2011 10:41 PM |
| All Hear Grant now or forever hold your peace! He is spot on with those comments! When I finally got home monday I sat down that evening and wrote a list and then implemented that list on tuesday! Here is the list..... - Bought two set's of MaxTrax on tuesday morning! Can anyone say "invaluable" and MORE THAN WORTH THE MONEY! I
think there is a possibility my truck would still be in the snow even with two winches working without Kevin's MaxTrax' - Bought a second more comprehensive tire repair kit - Put two ratchet straps in my gear box which will remain there forever - Will never leave home without a CO2 tank or my Powertank again - Bought two pair of waterproof gloves and put them in my gear box with my old hunting raingear for just such a weekend.
Hell yes it was fun, but it would have been more awesomer with dry clotheson sunday night It never ceases to amaze me no matter how much I do this stuff I always learn something new and find another "most likely will never use" item to add to the gear box! |
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Caleb Weand
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 | | 18 May 2011 11:37 PM |
| Everything grant has said is worth noting, and I personally agree. I also have a list that I created during and added to after the trip of things I will bring next time out. That being said I feel we were well prepared. I think something Scott said Sunday night, as we spent our last (and unexpected night) on the mountain, is very true “things we have encountered this weekend could be a life threatening event to most people”. So here is my list: -Stuck in snow X about every vehicle… -Stuck in mud X See above… - Punctured tire(s) - Rolled Bead X 2 – On same truck and as Grant mentioned above re-seated one. -Water crossing probably more dangerous than anticipated, and by all means the reason the group split. I know this was the right decision. -Boulder in road remedied by Terrance and myself, nothing like brute force to roll a boulder off the road! -Fallen tree. Who has the chain saw, no one on the north group? Dang… Winch worked wonders. - Partially washed out road. I think we (the north group) were extremely lucky that the road was still enough intact to pass. -Totally washed out road. Gave the northern group another night on the mountain and a beautiful fire compliments of Mr. Bruder! Another thing noted during this trip was that it seemed everyone managed to keep their cool. I also believe the right people were in the right place at the right time. I know personally I will not underestimate my circumstances and/or environment. Plan for the worst and hope for the best. I am also confident in my equipment and preparation. Much of what I have spent money on and not really needed before earned every bit of its worth on this trip. I had a blast and will do it again! -C |
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Jay Erickson
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 | | 19 May 2011 12:22 AM |
| One mans 911 is another mans fun. Good to hear you guys kept your cool and improvised your way through with what you thought would be proper preparedness. Caleb, how did the trailer handle? I'm curious, what is a vulnerable tire/wheel combo? How deep did the water crossing get?
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Grant Mossman
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Rus Mandery
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 | | 19 May 2011 07:55 AM |
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Moar!

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Benny Benson
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 | | 19 May 2011 07:58 AM |
| Caleb, That's twice now this year you've gone on "innocent" little trips where situations happened that turned them into possible life endangering events...yeah, maybe you need to stick to the house for awhile..kidding...Awesome trip and Janel glared at me when I said I wish I could've gone.. |
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Grant Mossman
 Veteran Member Posts:1410
 | | 19 May 2011 08:06 AM |
| Posted By Rus Mandery on 05/19/2011 7:55 AM
If Terrance or Caleb decide to attempt a trip report again there may be more, or just see the album. This is the only video I'm posting... had my hands a little full to run the video camera much |
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Scott Bruder
 Advanced Member Posts:564
 | | 19 May 2011 08:20 AM |
| Personal Plea! Does anyone from the trip have any photos of me stuck in the snow or mud with the MAXTRAX in use? I told them I would ask! I was too busy to snap any at the time! hahaha |
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Craig Spaeth
 Basic Member Posts:439
 | | 19 May 2011 10:31 AM |
| Might be a silly question but were you using the big truck to pull the Disco through the river or was the Disco broke? How did this work out for you? As much as the big Dodge? got pushed around I would be pretty concerned in the Disco.
the other Craig |
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Scott Bruder
 Advanced Member Posts:564
 | | 19 May 2011 10:47 AM |
| John and Caleb had already crossed about an hour before we got there. In that time the crossing had significantly deteriorated far beyond when they had crossed! The idea was for me to do the crossing as I had the most lifeted and heaviest truck and then was going to pull Kevin's stock Disco across. And possibly Grant and Terrance's 4-Runner's if need be! However, as you can see in the video when I hit the ledge on the other side with my 3-foot plus high bumper and bounced the front end up and gunned it to get the whole truck over it was discovered the water was much deeper than we thought! Mind you my truck run's 37's and as you can see the water was over them! After much thought and radio'ing back and forth (we couldn't hear each other because the river was too loud...haha) we decided to split up and each group make out way out! I am certain I would have pulled the front end off Kevin's Disco if we had tried! hahaha! |
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Jay Erickson
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 | | 19 May 2011 02:53 PM |
| WOW! WOW! |
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Jonathan Davis
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 | | 19 May 2011 03:13 PM |
| When comparing the video of Scott traversing the creek to the pictures of when I went thru, there is an obvious difference in where the bottom creek is. Psyching myself up to go!  Getting my toes wet! 
Pucker factor is high! 
Scrabbling out the other side wondering why the rear tires were fighting to make progress, until I realized 4x4 was not engaged. 
What I learned on this crossing, is going first is not always a bad thing and 4x4 always helps ~ Jon |
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Terrance Bailey
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 | | 19 May 2011 04:15 PM |
| wow apparently i didn't have a very good vantage point to watch Scott cross because i didn't realize until now just how deep it had gotten. as you can see when the first two crossed it was a bit deep but not out of any of the vehicles capabilities. had i seen it from grants position i wouldn't have thought about trying to get the disco across. a few things i thought of that haven't been mentioned.... 1.Don't have your heaviest truck be the first one across the snow or questionable portion of the trail, it is much easier to pull out the light un-lifted truck than the huge one. 2.Rain Gear-Having rain jacket and pants with "water proof" boots made it much more pleasant . 3.Know your comfort level and don't let others talk you passed it. 4.Good Communication- The lacking range of the FRS was off set by the fact that just about every rig had a radio. 5.Ham Radio- Clarity and range are so much better with ham, definitely the preferred radio. some times i couldn't hear what lead was saying. 6.If things are getting dicey have some one scout ahead so you have an idea of obstacles ahead. that way you can start planning for it by the time the stuck group catches up 7.Grant - have him along and you can get out of any predicament possible
To reiterate some things other people said. waterproof gloves, awesome idea, the ARB patch set is a great thing to have along.
The most important thing to have is a group that works well together and is able to think situations through without getting upset with each other. Have as much gear as you can for the weather that is possible not just probable. the bottom line is remember that you bought the winch, jerk straps, maxxtrax and all the other little goodies to use them so getting stuck is another fun part of the adventure. |
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Terrance Bailey
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 | | 19 May 2011 04:21 PM |
| one more thing i just thought of. when the two groups did have to split up we discussed each of our routes out and ways to make contact once we were out, and if we hadn't made contact how long to wait to get worried. This way if we hadn't had cell service and the next day or two we hadn't heard anything from them we would have at least known which roads to search for them on. |
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Caleb Weand
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Jonathan Davis
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 | | 19 May 2011 06:08 PM |
| Wow, great vid Caleb!!! What a difference an hour or so made to the crossing. ~ J |
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Nate Skate
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 | | 19 May 2011 06:47 PM |
| Looks much deeper and gnarlier in the second video. I've been in water that deep, but nothing like that current.
Did you guys use a hi lift more than the once i the snow with Scott's truck? |
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Grant Mossman
 Veteran Member Posts:1410
 | | 19 May 2011 06:56 PM |
| Caleb, glad you got it from the far side also. I wonder if thats the sound of a ball joint disintigrating... Nathan... not sure, I think we jacked front and back in the snow... I know we had two tire changes later |
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