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AJ LightfootUser is Offline
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09 Apr 2007 12:43 PM  
I'm putting together my list of items to purchase for my lift.
Probably won't be able to purchase everything thing til about 6-1, but I want to make sure i'm planning it all out right.

Here's what I got on the list....

All these parts are from RoverTym:
OME N73 front shocks, N25 rear shocks
RTE springs
Rear spring retainers
Brake lines
Rear links w/bushings
Front radius arms w/bushings
Adjustable Pan hard Rod

Front Drive Shaft  from Great Basin Rovers

What do you guy's think?
Anything else I should add/replace?

Thanks...
AJ


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09 Apr 2007 01:00 PM  
I think it will perform much worse than stock. Mine did.

Start with HD axles and lockers and then move on to protection, and then think about what suspension you need based on your use of the vehicle.  


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09 Apr 2007 01:10 PM  
i'd think tires would be the number one add on since everything else works through them. also, i'd have to say armor ought to be first on your list. it'll help a bit with the learning curve slickrock fabriction makes the nicest sliders IMHO. rovertracks for axles and CVs. since scott is an ARB retailer, he is an excellent source for lockers. an ARB through him isn't much more than a detriot.

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09 Apr 2007 01:19 PM  
I'm working on my tire connection (Friend manages a Les Schwab here) to get som BF M/T's to put on once I have my lift on.

I do plan on getting armor below (Steering skid, gas tank skid, diff guards and gear box skid), also was planning on getting Detroit Auto-Lockers front and rear. I also planned on getting HD Axels from Great Basin Rovers too. As well as HD Steering rods from DAP.

So far it sounds like i'm going about this backwards.. hmmm..
Thanks for the input, keep it coming...

AJ


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09 Apr 2007 01:32 PM  
I ask this question a lot....
why do you need to lift it?


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09 Apr 2007 01:46 PM  
I'm turning this rig into my off-road toy. I'm currently working on picking up a Range i'm going to make my Daily Driver. So I want to start the transformation on my Disco into the off-road machine I want it to be. There's been a few times i've run into obstacles I could not pass with it stock how it is. A suspension lift would have helped in those situations.


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09 Apr 2007 01:53 PM  
a detriot front won't work very well as rovers are all wheel drive (full time) rather than four wheel drive (part time). that said, you can get a detroit very cheaply.

do you have a trailer hitch? if so, you don't need a tank guard. ditto on the t-case guard. diff guards are a good idea. SG has been blowing out their diff guards but i think scott bought most of them. PM him if you're interested. also, you could get a pipe cap, cut it in half, and weld it on.

regarding axles: while GBR is cool, RT is cooler , cheaper and come with a lifetime warranty (i think). i know their CVs have a lifetime warranty. also, i think RT makes a nicer product than DAP for the drag link.

i wheeled for a while without a lift and did fine. until you get substantially larger tires, the only clearance you'll get is for bodywork. that would be nice but not a huge deal. don't get me wrong, lift is coooool! and i understand wanting to get a lift to fit a specific size tire so that you don't have to buy tires twice (because that's what i did ) how much lift do you want?

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09 Apr 2007 02:03 PM  
Honestly I was going to do a 2" lift and trim my wheel wells to fit a 285 tire. I have a friend who has a similar setup. But was talking to some other Rover owners (back in California) who have 3" lifts on there's and running 33's with the same wheel well trim. So after much thought I decided to go with the 3".

Yeah I got a hitch, good to know I don't need the Gas plate or gear box plate.
I don't want to buy tires twice, the tires I have on it are only about a year old, so they have plenty of life in them, got them for cheap from a friend brand new. I do well off roading stock size, but as always, want to go bigger.

Thanks for the info about the front locker, don't know why I didn't realize that.. saves me some money. haha.
and for the info about RT, I will definitely look into them instead of GBR and DAP.

AJ


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09 Apr 2007 02:11 PM  

i'm going to have to second or third or fourth the others regarding lift. I have a very mild lift and the truck does really well. The primary reason I got the lift was to accommodate 32" tires and the reason I went to 32" tires was for a wider range of tire choices. If you can either trim the stock front bumper or put on something like a Rovertym front bumper, you can get over a lot. If you want the bigger tires, you can probably get away with a mild 1.5" - 2" lift.

Most of the underside of a Rover is tucked up nicely. Diff guards are something you will want but you don't see a lot of people around here hitting the oil pan/t-case/transmission very often.

I'm not saying that lifts are bad but they typically aren't needed as much as they are on some other rigs and if you really start needing big lift then be ready to spend big $$$ to make a rover into a rock buggy.

 

Edit:  Just for clarification in this thread for anyone who reads it.  RTE = Rovertym,  RT=Rover Tracks.  Too many acronyms.....mind spinning... blacking out........


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09 Apr 2007 02:16 PM  
Keep the weight down. All those guards are going to put this, already overweight vehicle, off the scale.
I would also rethink the 285's. I have those on my truck and although it is a beefy sucker, you'd be nbetter served if you consider a 255/85.

As far as Lockers, I'd back up Andy's statement and say that ARB, although a little more money, will make a more decent setup on a Rover.

Good Luck!
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09 Apr 2007 02:28 PM  
Lots of opinions here today. :-) I wouldn't say you are going about this backwards. You can't put on heavy armor like bumpers until you have springs that can support the weight. The other reason to go with a firm spring is so you can load more gear into your truck. Make sure to honestly consider how much gear you are going to carry before picking a spring rate. If I did it over, I'd go with a Medium Duty spring instead of Heavy Duty.

Rovertym also makes nice (and cheap) adjustable HD panhard rods, HD drag links, etc.

Sounds like a fun project!

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09 Apr 2007 03:08 PM  
Honeslty guys, what I want most out of my DI is a rig I can take out on any trail for couple day long outtings.
After hearing what everyone has to say I have some thinking to do.

Thanks guys.


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09 Apr 2007 03:09 PM  
Craig, to give a differing opinion regarding spring rates, if I were to do it again, I'd get the XHD rear springs instead of the HD. I look at it this way: I'd rather deal with a heavy spring when the truck is empty instead of a light spring when heavily loaded.


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09 Apr 2007 03:57 PM  
In a lot of situations, driver experience can be more important than fancy goodies on the truck.

Run what ya brung. Upgade when you wear out the stock stuff.

My two cents.

Britt.


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09 Apr 2007 04:32 PM  
Of course, I rarely ever follow my own advice.


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09 Apr 2007 04:37 PM  
LOL. Exactly how I feel, Britt. The slippery slope is when you find yourself trying to figure out how to "wear out the stock stuff" quicker. My truck seems to be taking care of that for me so far but I've had those "bad thoughts" in the past.


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09 Apr 2007 04:41 PM  
Sorry, Andy - we need some comic relief here


3" RTE's, long-travel shocks, 34" LTB Super Swampers...  and open diffs:  



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09 Apr 2007 04:47 PM  
That is one of the things I thought about. All the gear on my truck is bone stock, except the tires.

I've decided on what i'm going to do.
I'll post with updates.

Thanks for your help guys!
AJ


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09 Apr 2007 04:50 PM  
Just to make sure we all understand the situation; The dog in that photo is not, I repeat NOT, afraid of being run over. He is, in fact, kicking snow on the truck and taunting the driver.

Rick


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09 Apr 2007 05:29 PM  
My two cents...even if a little late. The buildup on my RRC is going a bit backwards, ie lift and tires first, even w/ my 10 spline axles still loaded. However my RRC is going to be an advertising billboard as well as trail/camping rig. So I wanted to get it noticed sooner than later. If I were to build one w/o regard to advertising, I would go ARB and HD axles rear. trim the wheel wells and go 235/85 agressive AT, or MT. If you were to put anything up front I would do an ARB. There are instances where you don't want the front locked up, sidehills . Detroit is also an option for the rear and I know Mike Rupp and Dan Cronin use and love that setup. As far as lifts go, determine your load first. Are you going to haul anything? Tow anything? What will be your typical useage? Pure trail or camping? Figure those out and then pick out a lift. The OME is nice and simple, rugged and affordable. When you start going to 3" your losing the nice break over angle that rover's enjoy, and with too tall a tire you will be wishing you had re-geared. Think the vehicle build through to completion first and do the diligint work first, axles, lockers, undercarriage protection. There's my two cents.

Scott


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