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Peter CareyUser is Offline
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29 May 2007 08:33 AM  

I'm looking for a USA based dealer/applicator of some kind of nice, strong window coating to help prevent breakins. I've seen what the guys at Lone Wolf Transglobal Expedition are using, but it can only be applied in the UK. Does anyong know of something like this in the USA that isn't too dark of a tint? I'd be ok with applying it myself or going to some place in the Puget Sound area.

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29 May 2007 09:28 AM  
Why not go the Mantec route? http://www.mantec.co.uk/store_viewItem.cfm?ItemID=28&CategoryID=6

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29 May 2007 09:59 AM  

I'm looking for the front roll down windows.  I was thinking of those Mantec type gaurds for the back (mainly to keep the dogs in) but if I build up the cabinets in the back, those will be covered.

Someone on Expedition Portal pointed me to this place and I've requested a quote for a self install kit. 
http://www.shattergard.com/home.html

Having had my truck broken into before, and planning on leaving a good amount of valuables in it at times on my travels, I'd like something more secure.  Plus, it blocks UV and protects people on the inside from flying glass in a rollover or other accident, which is a big plus.   If it is truely transparent, I might go for it.

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29 May 2007 11:37 AM  
i have a friend who owns a glass shop. i'll contact him and see what he knows. at the very least i could probably get him to charge you a lot to put clear contact paper on your windows and he and i will go out to dinner

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29 May 2007 01:04 PM  

Peter,

I use Profilon on Data Center habitable spaces. http://www.profilon.com/site/videos/profilon_eng.ram It is quite simply the best there is. There also happens to be a guy in Hansville who deals with it. I'm sure they have some remnants that would work.

Mike Allen @ 1-800-419-2300

Allen's Law ESP
P.O. Box 170
Hansville, WA 98340

email info@allenslaw.com

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30 May 2007 09:07 AM  
As a thought on the Mantec window guards...I called and talked with the owner about them and he suggested I strongly consider the downsides of using them before the upsides. Pros: can be ordered to protect from iniside of the vehicle to keep aniimals or prisoners contained in the cargo area and vehicle security; or mounted outside the vehicle to enhance security and protects windows from trail damage. Cons, if imounted nside, cargo window can't be opened easily, hard to remove, nearly impossible to clear steamed windows; if mounted to the exterior of windows, it's very hard to clean windows without removing them. Bottom line, he said they are great for the park ranger who occasionally needs to transport a criminal and for those looking for great protection but don't ccar how dirty the window get. He suggested they would be ideal for the overland "only" vehicle but would not recommend for mixed use for most people. This was enough for me to give the security thing a second thought. I like Peter's idea.
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30 May 2007 05:09 PM  
Riv-nuts baby.
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31 May 2007 12:23 PM  
Peter, please post your findings from Shatterguard. I've been meaning to contact them...
Peter CareyUser is Offline
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31 May 2007 12:55 PM  

I left out the price as I'm waiting to hear back on a detail for the 110.

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Dear Peter


Thank you for your inquiry into VehicleGARD.



VehicleGARD is a shatter resistant security window film designed to slow down an assailant and attacks from tire irons, explosive devices, car jackings, etc. by frustrating and forcing the would be thief to strike the window repeatedly, all the while denying them access. While significant force is required to shatter the window a criminal must use attention getting blows to penetrate this unique film. In the unlikely event the window breaks the shards of glass are secured in place by the film which allows the window to maintain it’s original shape thus acting as an invisible barrier protecting the vehicles’ occupants and it’s contents. This is the same film that is installed in over 5,500 military vehicles in Iraq, Afghanistan and Kuwait currently protecting our servicemen and women on active duty.



VehicleGARD is sold directly to the end user as a cost effective and easy to use self installed kit, complete with all of the necessary installation tools, installation CD-ROM and the film already pre-cut to fit the interior of your vehicles’ side and rear windows only. Since there is no need to remove the door panels, glass or window frame gaskets this kit in essence is a peel and stick operation which can be up fitted in any garage. Once installed this added protection will not effect the operation of the windows.



Our database contains practically every vehicle manufactured in the United States, Western Europe and Japan. Available in either clear, 20% or 35% tinted versions it is the end users responsibility to confirm and comply with all state and country window tinting laws in which the vehicle is operated and any existing solar window tint will have to be removed prior to installation.



VehicleGARD is not bullet resistant, however, when properly installed on existing automotive glass it has the ancillary effect of slowing down the velocity of small caliber arms. This by no means constitutes a bullet resistant product, therefore, we do not sell, market, warranty or guarantee it as such. There are companies that claim to have a bullet resistant film, this simply is impossible unless applied in multiple layers onto 1/2" glass, or thicker. This we know is not the standard thickness of automotive glass. In order to obtain true bullet resistant protection vehicles must undergo a lengthy tear down and up fit process which is not a practical nor financially feasible scenario for most individuals or companies. Therefore we developed these kits as a way to obtain a high level of glass protection that's cost effective and extremely quick to up fit.



I am sorry but our database does not contain the pre cut patterns for you 1993 Land Rover Defender 110. The only solution I can offer is to provide you with a discounted kit in roll format. VehicleGARD 6 Year Limited Warranty protects you against manufacturing defects such as cracking, distorting, yellowing, adhesion failure and delaminating and is extended to cover installation for the same time period if installed by a ShatterGARD technician

Best Regards,


Michael Silverman
VP Sales
ShatterGARD, Inc.
3065 McCall Drive
Suite #3
Atlanta, GA 30340
Phone: 888-306-7998 ext. 16
Fax: 888-646-8913

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31 May 2007 01:07 PM  
Group buy? Seems like cutting and fitting to Rover side glass would not be worth messing with a pre-cut. I stuck some tint film on my back side windows, it wasn't that hard.
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31 May 2007 01:28 PM  

Peter,

Seriously check into the Profilon product. Everyone else, watch the video in the link I provided for high entertainment value.

 http://www.profilon.com/site/videos/profilon_eng.ram

Maybe Mike Allen could even do a tech session?

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31 May 2007 01:30 PM  

yeah, it's the video that scared me off. It was quite entertaining and now I can't get the music out of my head!!!

I'm emailing your friend now

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31 May 2007 01:32 PM  
This is the stuff used for embassy and other high profile facility protection around the world. I had a large number of hours of research that went into selecting them for work use.
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31 May 2007 01:38 PM  
I'm interested in the Profilon. You have to have the windows removed to have it installed, but I've been needing new window seals anyway.
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31 May 2007 01:42 PM  

The best profilon story is about an office that was broken into and their computers stolen several times. the thieves were shattering the windows and gaining access. They had profilon installed on the front windows of the business.

A while later they showed up in the morning to a shattered window, intact, but shattered. On the ground was a nice sledge, broken glasses, some teeth, and a bit of blood.

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31 May 2007 06:27 PM  
I just got off the phone with Mike Allen. One key issue he brought up is that the vehicles use safety glass. Safety glass is designed to shatter on impact and therefore immediately looses its integrity. Although a security film will hold it together, it will no longer have any strength. They have replaced safety glass with regular glass, or even bullet resistant and then applied Profilon on top of that. They also have done it on the safety glass, but you are not getting as much protection as many other companies are advertising.
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31 May 2007 08:33 PM  
interesting. Does anyone have a test window we can use? I'm now really curious. shattergard is sending me samples of the tint and I sent an email to the address Michael gave me above for profilon
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31 May 2007 08:56 PM  
keep us posted, seems like a great solution for exterior french doors as well.
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01 Jun 2007 09:58 AM  
Holy toledo Davis, I knew D110's were big, but I did not know they were big enough to install french doors on the back.

Do you carry a travel Bistro table for coffee in the mornings?
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05 Jun 2007 02:37 PM  
the samples look good as samples should. I have posed Michael's concern about about safety glass to them and wait to hear back.
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