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27 May 2009 06:14 PM  
I am looking for some local advice for our family trip to the Washington / BC area. We will be travling from Michigan and should arrive in the Seattle/Vancouver area the last week of June.

We are hoping to spend some time tent camping in the San Juans or Vancouver island (or other island suggestions?) We are looking at maps and considering San Juan island/lopez island/Orca island/suggestions?

We will have our Discovery and our 14 Zodiac on a trailer. I’d like to find a nice place to tent camp near the water that can be accessed with our truck and trailer.

I would appreciate any suggestions on campgrounds, marine life(snorkeling) , areas to explore with a small boat, etc

Thanks very much for any advice.

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27 May 2009 06:47 PM  
Definitely check out the San Juan's. San Juan, Orcas or Lopez (and Shaw) are all great options.
West Beach Resort on Orcas is a great water accessible beach location.

While up there, go to Roche and Friday Harbors.

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27 May 2009 10:21 PM  
OMG! I have spent so much time up there! Shoot me an e-mail, I would lve to let you know of the smaller places that are absolutely fantastic! I love the San Juans! Have you ever been there? OMG I love it up there!
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27 May 2009 11:09 PM  
I've been to Orcas quite a lot. Camping on Sucia Island is one of life's greatest experiences.
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28 May 2009 10:57 AM  
Lime Kiln park on San Juan island is a must. If your timing is right, you can see orcas from the shore easily, without an expensive whale watching tour. The shoreline is such, that we had one whale breech only about 15ft away from us!
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28 May 2009 05:22 PM  

This discussion is making me want to go ride the ferry to Friday Harbor for lunch. Maybe we should have a NWOS meeting on a ferry!? Park the rigs at Anacortes and walking on (Walking?!?!? In a vehicle related group!?!?) would be a fun and inexpensive day trip.

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28 May 2009 06:14 PM  

Thanks for all the tips.....we are investigating the suggestions and will post with more questions.

Steve

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28 May 2009 06:55 PM  

Question regarding WA ferry service...

Am I understanding this correctly....If I purchase a ticket for truck/trailer/fam to go from Anacortez to Vancouver island via the San Juan, can I stop and spend a couple of nights on Orcas Is. and then a couple of nights on SJ is. and then head over to Vancouver island without purchasing additon tickets?  Also is it true that the east route back to Anacortez is no additonal charge..?

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28 May 2009 07:15 PM  
I think that is close to right. I know that if you go to Oracs and a few of the others, you automatically get to get on whatever ferry you want to get off that island. I'm not sure if that includes going across the border though.
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28 May 2009 07:26 PM  
The county park on Smallpox Bay is a great place to spend a few nights. It’s on the west side of San Juan Island, has a boat ramp, great views, good diving/snorkeling, et al. It should definitely be on your short list if you are camping. Check ahead for reservations, etc. as campsites are in high demand during the summer. Also, lots of coast worth exploring with the inflatable. http://www.sanjuanco.com/Parks/default.aspx
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28 May 2009 08:04 PM  

Hey, Steve, glad you made it over here. 

If you take Wa. State Ferries to any of the Wa. State Islands, you pay one time only for a round trip, (out and return ferry).  BC Ferries out of Canada charges you each way, once there, then another charge for return, because Vancouver Island is so large, many people never need to return to the mainland.

However, I cannot answer with certainty how you pay if you go from Anacortes thru the San Juans to Vicotria (Vancouver Island).  I'm pretty sure they would charge you there, then charge on the way back again.  Sounds like you've read the Wa. State Ferry website and its not clear.

Small Pox is  where San Juan Co. Campground is,  my personal favorite.  Good water access.  If someone sees Orca whales they shout and you can look up from your campsite and see them.   Friday Harbor is cute as can be.  Roche Harbor reminds me of Mackinac Island, only smaller.

I like the Pot Holes for half a day on the south end of San Juan.  If accessed with the Zodiac, be careful heading thru Cattle Point, AKA Hell's Gate. Tide charts are a good idea.  While the Great Lakes can get very  big and ruff, they don't have the tides, currents and rips like they do here.

Camping on Sucia is very nice indeed.  While The Puget Sound is not as cold as Lake Superior, hypothermia is still a constant threat.  While I often sea kayak out to Sucia, I've never been in a Zodiac and don't know how they hande the rips between Orcas Island and Sucia.

A bus tour of Victoria, Vancouver Island is fun. Victoria is a very unique North American city.

Go Wings.

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29 May 2009 10:00 AM  

All,

Thanks for the many suggestions and information.  Based on the info provided we are in progess of planning a couple nights on Orcas and a couple nights on SJ with day trips in the boat or truck as weather permits.

 
Tom,
 
Great point on the tides and current concerns. We've had the inflatable out in some pretty rough seas without problems but Lk Mi, Lk Sup and even the Florida Keys are not the same as the WA area. Is the main concern with the tides due to ....submerged rocks?, extreme current flow (over powering the ability to make forward motion)?, all of the above? The boat is beach-able so we have the advantage of not having to moor it off-shore....
 
I have done a little bit of Kayaking but never in water with strong currents.....I run a pretty small motor on the boat (to keep the weight down and allow it to be packable in the truck, if needed) but it has decent power and can move the boat to 18mph if not over packed. One of the biggest plus' of the inflatable is it's stability on the water...with 20" tubes it would be hard to tip over and even in full scuba gear the boat doesn’t hardly move when you pull yourself on board.
 
Thanks again!
 
Steve
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29 May 2009 10:25 AM  

I am ready for some of this:

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29 May 2009 10:50 AM  

Local knowledge:

On your way to Anacortes, make time to stop at Deception Pass.  Park at the visitor parking on the south side of the bridges,get out and walk the bridges.  Not too many places like that in the world that are so accessible to view from above. Its pretty cool. You will see classic eddylines and whirlpools and wave trains, depending on the tide.  If its full flood, you may see sail boats go thru doing 360s in the whirlpools in the middle of the main current.

You will NOT encounter anything nearly as intense as that, but it will give you a great overhead view of the much smaller scale situations you may find yourself in.  When you feel the Zodiac suddenly being pushed around by eddy currents that you cannot see, you'll have that visual on file to relate to.

I'm not trying to frighten you, just trying to give you a headstart on the little learning curve.  Its not that big of a deal, but the water is 47 degrees which means hypothermia is always a threat. Not as cold as Superior, but similar to the off shore waters of Michigan.

Your boat cruises fast enough, you will not have issues going against the tide.

Your concerns will be eddylines caused by current being funneled around a point or some obstruction.  Usually significant when current meets "open water" so to speak (like Cattle Point).  When possible, take them more "head on" than not.  At these areas you may also find clapotis; where waves (or just wave vs current, or current vs wind) heading in opposite directions meet and clap up together.  A litle momentum thru these areas helps. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clapotis

You are going to have a blast. Be careful. I came out here from Michigan 10 years ago...and never went back.  If you like motoring thru the islands and wheeling thru the mountains...there's more here than a man can see in one lifetime.

Go Wings

 

Edit:  Oh yeah, and take the short cut to the Ancortes ferry from Deception Pass.  The first left after crossing back north over the bridge take Rosario rd left.

 

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01 Jun 2009 07:25 PM  

Yeah Wings!  Game on tommarow night!
Deception pass sounds nice we will check it out and survey the waterway.  360s!....On purpose?
 

Looks like four nights in the SanJuans is the plan.  We were planning to go on to Victoria but we are considering heading up the coast north of Vancouver for a few days instead.  Has anyone been to the the Howe sound area?...Gambier Island?....coastal area up highway 99?  I am wondering how croweded these areas will be in Late June?

Thanks again for the help.

Steve

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01 Jun 2009 09:30 PM  
You should ask on the BC Roverlanders forum as well. They'll have better BC info than we do.
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02 Jun 2009 06:47 PM  

Craig,  Great Idea.  I am reading through there web site now.

Steve

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02 Jun 2009 08:29 PM  
Since your from Michigan you'll probably end up moving out here. Seems like I can't cross the street here in Bellingham without meeting a Michigander, including my wife. Avoid the San Juans on the weekend, and checkout the county campground on Shaw. I try to keep it a secret, but I have a soft spot for your people and since your state is in complete economic meltdown I feel sorry for you.
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03 Jun 2009 04:22 AM  

Nate,

I have a few former classmates that live in Bellingham...I'm not sure what the MI - Bellingham connections is?

It is a little rough here in Mi...and Yes I work for an Automotive supplier....Luckly we are on the West side of the state so it's a lttle less doom and gloom.  How is the economy in WA?

Thanks for the relpy.

 

Steve

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04 Jun 2009 12:28 AM  

As you return to North Vancouver from Howe Sound, may I suggest a stop at The Boathouse restaraunt on Horse Shoe Bay. Request table 101 outside on the deck in the corner by the boats. Great view, great sea food.

I realize you have to draw the line somewhere, but its hard to head up Howe Sound without continuing another 45 minutes beyond Squamish all the way up to Whistler.  Primo Downhill mountain biking off the chairlift.

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