degride
 Basic Member Posts:141
 | | 07 May 2010 06:33 PM |
| Ok, before I dive into this, I'd like for everyone to try and keep the emotions out of this and just let me know what your personal experience has been. I know some of us, including myself, are partial to brandatitis. Alright, with the disclaimer out of the way, I'm getting ready to purchase a "camp" stove. I'll always carry my beloved MSR WhisperLite with me, however, I need a larger cooking surface. That being said what has been your experience with the following manufacturer's: Coleman Cook Partner Camp Chef Brunton From what I have read, Coleman, Brunton, maybe Camp Chef and a few others are made on the same line in China with Cook Partner being made here in the USA. Have any of you had problems with dropping it and it not working? What about breaking off exposed knobs? One thing I would like would be dual-fuel. I'd like to be able to hook up a propane tank if needed or just use normal kerosene. As I said earlier, I'll have my WhisperLite for a back up (it's what I use when I climb and backpack) but I definitely want something that will last for a while. Let the comments begin! Beer on! |
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Ryan
 New Member Posts:83
 | | 07 May 2010 08:21 PM |
| I can't keep the ignitors working on any of the coleman camp gear I have (they do work just very poor). I also have a 2 burner brinkman camp stove that is my favorite but it is really too big for packing in the rover. I'll be buying a jetboil soon for most of cooking. (Boil in a bag is usually what I do) Ryan |
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Morris Yarnell
 Advanced Member Posts:771
 | | 07 May 2010 08:54 PM |
| Wasn't on your list but I have an old two burner Primus. Burner on the right is great, left... not so much. Not real good in the wind even with the side screens up. Looking to get a newer model of something. This thread might help decide. But for coffee in the am I use a single burner propane Coleman. Came as a lamp/stove combo, both are great and always take the stove with me. |
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Dale Avery
 Advanced Member Posts:684
 | | 07 May 2010 09:37 PM |
| If you know anyone who has back issues of Overland Journal, they did a pretty good evaluation of camp stoves about a year ago. Personally, I have never been happy with Coleman camping stoves (two burner kind). When camping with more than one other person, I really like my Camp Chef. The model eludes me at the moment, but I can tell you that it was made for white water rafters. The body is aluminum, wth the burners, etc. stainless steel. It burns propane from a small 2 1/2 gallon tank, and can be mounted on the ground using the four detachable legs that come with it. It can be adjusted from a whisper to a roaring 50,000 btu output in a second. My only issue with it, and one that the Overland Journal points out about several other brands/models is that the burner is not close enough to the grill causing a lot of energy to be wasted. When I am alone, I still use my Butterfly a lot. I just picked up Craig's old JetBoil and will be using that most of the time when I go out alone (which is much of the time). I appreciate it's heat output and like it both in the truck or packed away on the back of the dualsport bike. The french press kit that came with it makes a nice cup of coffee FAST. |
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Mike Rupp
 Veteran Member Posts:1355
 | | 07 May 2010 10:12 PM |
| 50,000 btu? Holy Toledo, that is a ton of heat. Man, that thing would power a wok like nobodys business. |
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Craig Miller Posts:11803
 | | 08 May 2010 12:37 AM |
| Dale,
Was it the propane or a white gas Coleman stove that you had trouble with?
Donald - For a big stove I'm completely 100% sold on the Coleman Multi-fuel White Gas Stove. - White gas burns hot year round. - Amazingly good burner control. Yes, white gas and flame control. Amazing. :-) - Burns the same fuel as your Whisperlite - Can burn unleaded out of your tank/jerry can with no problem - Very simple design, nothing to go wrong. No Piezo ignitors
I've gone through a bunch of stoves and tried isobutane, propane, and white gas. The classic Coleman has earned it's place in my family camping kit.
Craig |
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Mike Rupp
 Veteran Member Posts:1355
 | | 08 May 2010 06:50 AM |
| Craig, I had a major problem with my dual burner white gas Coleman. On the Whipsaw trail, a clump of snow fell on one of the burners and I couldn't get it started again. I had to borrow Dan's butane / isobutane / propane stove. I've tests on one of my canister gas stoves to see if it was at risk to the same thing and it seems much easier to get the canister gas stoves started. So, unlike you, I'm not 100% sold on the Coleman. I'm about 75% sold. |
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Scott Brady
 New Member Posts:58
 | | 08 May 2010 11:29 AM |
| Hey Guys, I uploaded the article for you guys: https://www.overlandjournal.com/files/samples/overland_journal_stove_review.pdf Hope it helps with the decision. FYI on the Brunton compact stove. After a year of use, we reported that it was not as sexy with serious use than the initial testing demonstrated. . . |
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Jay Erickson
 Advanced Member Posts:812
 | | 08 May 2010 02:31 PM |
| I'm still using a coleman 2 burner propane unit I picked up back in the mid 80's. I don't have a bad word to say about it. I will qualify and say that most of my use with it is fairly simple cooking and for 1 or 2 sometimes 3 people. It's certainly not the sexiest looking unit but I can't knock it's reliability and I've sure gotten my bang for the buck out of it.
I tried a single burner butane (or some type of fuel that came in pressurized canisters) worked ok when I was in the Army and had to hide it in my buttpack but once I started camping with a vehicle again there wasn't a good argument against the coleman. |
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Dale Avery
 Advanced Member Posts:684
 | | 08 May 2010 04:01 PM |
| Scott, Thanks for getting the article for us. It's as good as I remembered. Glad I'm a charter subscriber btw. Before I bought the Dakar, I was thinking very seriously about a BMW F1150 GSA. Had I made that purchase, the bike would have come with a set of large aluminum panniers. I think they were H&B's, but could have been Jesse's, or BMW, or whatever. At any rate I found a discussion about cooking gear on ADVrider.com and one of the fellows was talking about the custom grill he made. This guy is an aircraft mechanic by trade and the ULTIMATE GRILL he came up with is something to behold. Well, like any techno geek out there, I just had to have one. Unfortunately, in some ways, I went with the Dakar. The grill and stove are too big and bulky to fit into the Desert Basin saddlebags I use to carry my gear in. But I thought you'd like to see some pics of this setup. The system folds up and can be stores in a mesh bag approximaely 2" W x 7.5" T x 17" L. Setup it measures approximately 13" W x 9" T x 18" L. As you can see by the pics, it is made to be used with a Coleman model 533 dual fuel, or similar stove. There is enough room for two such units under the grill. The grills are made by Purcell Trench and are stainless steel. The four knob ended bolts that hold it together store in a threaded enclosure in one of the side panels. Thel whole things weighs in at somewhere betwen 1-2 lbs, excluding the stove(s). I wish I had more room to carry it. I've only used it once but love the darn thing. |
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Joe Koegler
 Basic Member Posts:354
 | | 09 May 2010 11:09 AM |
| Our 2-burner propane Coleman is going on 20 years and still works a charm. It even does a very good simmer but can be slow on cold mornings. Propane/butane/iso-butane does suck more in colder weather. You can refill 1lb. bottles (in fact you can overfill them if you freeze the 1lb bottle too long first) from a bulk tank with an adapter, but never use the Worthington branded ones if you do. They leak (even when new), bulge around the seams if they get too warm and are downright dangerous IMHO. I can appreciate the allure of white gas/multi-fuel stoves but the filling, pumping, jet swaps and cleaning, priming is a bit of a hassle we'd rather not deal with. That being said, we do have a Primus mult-fuel that roars like a jet. |
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Isaac Fain WARNING: Pot Stirrer
 Advanced Member Posts:511
 | | 09 May 2010 11:26 AM |
| another coleman 2 burner guy here. propane canisters can be had virtually anywhere in north america; the dual fuel thing always seemed like overkill for me. for backup and survival, I have an array of esbit fueled folding and free-standing stoves, as well as catalyst heaters for MRE.
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Morris Yarnell
 Advanced Member Posts:771
 | | 09 May 2010 05:38 PM |
| I have thought about refilling the 1 lb bottles but for the cost vs the danger of one blowing up is just not worth it. I usually carry four or five plus an 11 lb tank in the trailer. |
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Jay Erickson
 Advanced Member Posts:812
 | | 09 May 2010 05:47 PM |
| I'm with Morris on refilling my own bottles, they can be found too cheap for me to risk blowing myself up. Plus as Isaac said you can usually find those bottles everywhere. If it's cold enough outside to freeze up propane...you probably aren't going to find me camping anyway!  |
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Joe Koegler
 Basic Member Posts:354
 | | 09 May 2010 05:56 PM |
| We keep the 1lb. bottles stashed inside the spare on the rear swing-out. We can fit four of them there. Kind of a Ford Pinto tailgating deterrent ;-p |
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degride
 Basic Member Posts:141
 | | 10 May 2010 11:44 AM |
| Thanks to all who replied. You know, I hear you Craig on the Coleman stoves. However, what I have heard is that the newer Coleman's are not the same as the older ones. What that time differentiator is I have no idea.
Scott, I've been procrastinating on picking up a subscription just because any time I'm over at Danno's house I browse his. However, because you chimed in with exactly what I was looking for I'm purchasing a subscription today. Thanks again for the article.
I'll let everyone know what I decide on. Just in case you are/were wondering or if you have trouble sleeping.
-d |
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Craig Miller Posts:11803
 | | 10 May 2010 12:48 PM |
| Donald,
Follow your gut on what you think will work reliably for you. For clarification though, my comments are based on the newer Coleman white gas stove. I couldn't pry the old stove I grew up with away from my Dad.
Craig
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Grant Mossman
 Veteran Member Posts:1410
 | | 12 May 2010 04:20 PM |
| Here ya go... seattle.craigslist.org/see/atq/1736608273.html Brand New Sears (Coleman) Camp Stove 1965 - $1000 (Sammamish)
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Carl Greene
 New Member Posts:68
 | | 12 May 2010 05:16 PM |
| Donald,
I'm not sure why others have had issues with Coleman equipment. I have several pieces of coleman (gas and propane) and rarely have had problems. Once I had to change some little rod gizmo that contols the flame on the stove. My folks have a two burner stove and a three burner stove, both 50+ years old, that have worked well.
I also Camp Chef 3-burner and 2-burner units, but both are rather heavy to be hauling in and out of the truck. They're nice if you're setting up camp and staying in one spot, parties, etc. I have the Camp Chef BBQ box and it does a great job with do-it-yourself pizza.
For backpacking or airplane camping I have a Svea. It's the original Jetboil. It uses white gas so there's no cartridges to pack around.
Just my $.02.
Good luck.
Carl |
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Carl Greene
 New Member Posts:68
 | | 12 May 2010 05:22 PM |
| Craig,
I have the same issue getting the old stoves from my folks. I guess I'm gonna have to do a midnight raid or something. The big problem is that they are old, cranky, have barking dogs, have guns, and sleep with one eye open. The goal is to get to them before my brother. Any suggestions?
Carl |
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