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27 Jul 2010 11:31 AM  

 The original Slow Build was about two years getting the mechanicals complete and ready to go.  Some of them are still being finished but I think it's far enough along to start preparing it for some long trips.  I'm posting up early in the process hoping to get some feedback and comments that'll reduce the number of things done twice.

 

Specs as it sits (or almost sits) now:

1963 IH Scout.  Mostly stock.  For me and my style simple is better and this fits quite nicely.

Tires:  30x9.5 MT - something taller and not much wider is slated for the future.

Axles: Dana 44's, 4.30/4.27 gears, PowrLoc LSD rear, Autolocker front, manual hubs, Front Disc/Rear Drum.

Drivetrain:  196ci 4 cylinder, Ford EDIS ignition, T18 4speed, Dana 20 tc.

Here's an older shot showing the available interior space:

 

And in it's summer configuration:

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27 Jul 2010 11:41 AM  

Here's a starting list of potential upgrades:

Onboard air - York Compressor on a IH AC/Alternator bracket

 

A repurposed forklift propane tank to replace one of the side saddle fuel tanks and sufficient plumbing to have some quick connects front and rear.

 

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27 Jul 2010 11:51 AM  

 A Pierce 8,000lb worm drive winch:

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27 Jul 2010 11:55 AM  

 Dual batteries relocated one under each front seat.  Closer to starter, further from winch.  As I'm understanding it heavy gauge cables will allow the winch to operate normally?

Charging controlled by:

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27 Jul 2010 12:11 PM  

 On board  water:

A water tank located in place of the other side saddle fuel tank.  On a dry run this can supplement drinking water.  On a wetter run this could be shower water.

 

Hot water:  

Setup to draw from the onboard tank or from an external hose.  I'd like to set it up so that you can unroll a stored hose, quick connect it, and pitch the other end in the creek.  This type of heat exchanger is on my list:

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27 Jul 2010 12:48 PM  
Brian,

The York compressor is a great way to go.
How much does the truck weigh?
That charging switch looks great. Seems like everything is electrical these days. I like the simplicity of the mechanical switch.

With regard to the water. Are you planning to travel in the desert? Just trying to get the water weight lower and more centralized? The onboard tanks are hard to keep clean and will require regular maintenance.

When I did my onboard shower, I started out with a plan to add water storage, have an integrated shower nozzle like you'd find on a small sailboat, a high flow marine pump, etc. I'd even purchased a bunch of the parts. Then I spoke with Pasquale of Overland Video whose Land Cruiser was featured in the first issue of Overland Journal. He had put a fully integrated system into the Land Cruiser (the featured truck) and the simple Helton kit from cruiseroutfitters in his Toyota Tacoma PU. He had sunk thousands into the fully integrated system only to find that he preferred the Helton. His reasons were simple:

- Simpler to clean a bucket than an onboard water tank
- The low flow pump with the Helton kit provides enough water to get clean, without consuming water too fast. The pump was simply too strong.
- The heat exchangers usually raise the water temp about 40 degrees. With a tank, you get current tank temperature + 40 degrees. With the Helton, you get water from a collapsible bucket so you can turn the showerhead on, drop it into the bucket, and let it circulate warmed water back into the bucket until it reaches the temperature you are comfortable with. That is you get bucket water temp + 40 degrees. Since you are recirculating, the bucket temp slowly raises.
- The water that sits in the heat exchanger is scalding hot. Without a bucket to recirc through, you have to waste the first few seconds of water rather than recycling it back into the bucket.

I had a Helton in my truck for a couple of years and it worked great. I recently sold the truck, but one of the things I saved was the Helton shower system since it worked so well.

Looks like a GREAT build!
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27 Jul 2010 02:02 PM  

 Light weight is 3,500lbs with a front bias of about 200lbs.

 

I'd say 50% of the time will be high desert travel.

 

I am trying to get the heavier items in between the square created by the axles and the frame.  I'm pretty sure the fuel tanks are going to end up behind the rear axle and in between the frame.  Current suspension is spring over axle which leaves it a little tall.  I've contemplated going back to spring under axle with a slight lift but the ability to roll right thru the tank traps that are so common here is pretty darn nice.

 

Is there any reason an onboard water tank would be more difficult to maintain than the tank in an RV?  With a proper bottom drain it should be easy to flush and sanitize?  Winter use shouldn't  be a problem, just leave the tank empty and use the water that's just laying around.

 

I'm researching the Helton now.  I am perfectly happy without AC or power steering but a hot shower is required.  We're not savages after all:)

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27 Jul 2010 02:56 PM  
Nope, RV tank maintenance is similar.

I'm reaching into the back of my mind here, but I also seem to remember something complex about plumbing the tank for both hot and cold water that made it more difficult. Not necessarily a reason to not do it, but you indicated that you prefer a simpler approach and I got the feeling from Pasquale that he found the fully plumbed/integrated system to be a lot harder to maintain, operate, etc.

I'm not sure if it will help, but there's a shower thread on here where I asked questions before doing mine.
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27 Jul 2010 03:53 PM  
Posted By Craig Miller on 07/27/2010 2:56 PM
but I also seem to remember something complex about plumbing the tank for both hot and cold water that made it more difficult.

 

If I plumb the heat exchanger in just after the heater control valve I would get from ambient to hot just by adjusting the dash knob.  I'll have to check the flow rating for the Helton to see if that's ok.  Speaking of Helton - that's a pretty good looking product especially for the price point.

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27 Jul 2010 04:04 PM  
Yep, it can all be done. My points are just for your consideration.
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27 Jul 2010 04:17 PM  

 Sleeping quarters:

Anybody have experience with Kamp-rite?

 

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27 Jul 2010 04:48 PM  
Posted By Craig Miller on 07/27/2010 4:04 PM
Yep, it can all be done. My points are just for your consideration.


Keep'em coming.

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29 Jul 2010 01:14 PM  

 After reading thru the forums here I'm adding a Ham and license to the required list.

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29 Jul 2010 01:48 PM  
Posted By Brian Harden on 07/29/2010 1:14 PM

 After reading thru the forums here I'm adding a Ham and license to the required list.


Hooray!

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09 Aug 2010 01:03 PM  

Does anyone have any experience with soft tops?

I'm not worried about how the windows fit and such since I'm going to use the original steel top as a frame for canvas panels.  I do wonder about what type of canvas to use, how well they handle summer in the desert and deep snow?

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09 Aug 2010 02:27 PM  

 Don't use Sunbrella (sp) fabric. I had a top made for a Mog and it will leak in the rain. If you can get a rubberized vinyl like the military tops it would be the best but I am not sure of a color selection.

Check Seattle Fabrics,  8702 Aurora N, Seattle, WA 98103

edit:   There is a marine Sunbrella that may be waterproof.

 

 

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27 Sep 2010 02:12 PM  
Posted By Brian Harden on 07/27/2010 11:51 AM

 A Pierce 8,000lb worm drive winch:


Picked this up out of Pocatello this weekend.  It's a Desert Dynamics T-200 (bought by Pierce and now available as the PS654).  It's a 9,000lb winch and for $170 it can be upgraded to 12,500lbs

It bolts up on the sides ( you can see the 4 bolt holes in the pic) so eventually it'll end up between the frame rails, just ahead of the radiator but still behind the front grill.  It is very heavy. 

The PO made an awesome cover for it too - pics to follow as I get it painted and mounted this week.

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27 Sep 2010 07:59 PM  
Nice! Pierce worm drive winches are awesome. I have a Ramsey RE12000 which is very similar and love it. A lot of the guys on here have run the Pierce winches in the past. You'll be very happy with it.
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04 Mar 2011 05:33 PM  
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04 Mar 2011 11:33 PM  

Brian I got your back and I hope the rest of the NWOS does as well! You got my vote! I encourge ALL of the NWOS to vote for Brian and his family!!!

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