Craig Miller Posts:11803
 | | 17 Nov 2009 01:49 AM |
| I've been looking at rugged phones lately and thought I'd share a few of the more interesting phones and facts I've stumbled across. All of these phones are Milspec 810F certified for water, dust, and shock resistance. They should all be submersible for up to 30 minutes, sustain a fall from table height, and handle the dusty trail with ease... Verizon is coming out with the Casion G'zone Brigade: Ruggedized phone that flips open to reveal a full thumb keyboard for texting/email. Most ruggedized phones use T9 (keypad) based entry which I don't like. This looks pretty good. http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/casio-gzone-brigade-brings-whole-new-level-of-rugged-insanity-t/ |
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Craig Miller Posts:11803
 | | 17 Nov 2009 01:58 AM |
| Verizon also has the Motorola Barrage. The phone looked pretty good in person. The lighter grey in the center section of the photo below is a rubberized texture (not feaux carbon fiber) which has a good rugged look and is easy to grip. A couple of problems came up consistently in online reviews. Most notably, you can't get it loud enough to hear, and several users reported getting speaker vibration when they turned it up too loud. If you own a Jeep or a Defender this one probably isn't the phone for you.
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Craig Miller Posts:11803
 | | 17 Nov 2009 02:07 AM |
| In comparing phones for use in the backcountry, be sure to compare carriers. While no phone will work in the Cascades, the various carriers coverage footprints vary dramatically. I compared ATT, T-mobile, and Verizon. Verizon has the largest network footprint in the PNW with ATT very close on it's heals. T-mobile on the other hand has an absolutely horrible footprint. Unless you plan to drive your Overland Vehicle around town, don't even bother with T-mobile. Sprint/Nextel is a confusing network to analyze. They use two separate and incompatible technologies: CDMA (Sprint) and I believe TDMA (Nextel). If you look at Sprint/Nextel coverage maps,make sure they are distinguishing between the two technologies and that you know what kind of phone you are using. GSM (ATT/T-mobile) coverage maps are available at http://www.gsmworld.com/Roaming/Gsminfo/cou_us.shtml Verizon Wireless Maps are available at http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/CoverageLocatorController |
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Ran Freundlich
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 | | 17 Nov 2009 05:59 AM |
| LRO test out the Sonim and Durrocomm Rugged Phones
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Garrett Grebe
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 | | 17 Nov 2009 06:47 AM |
| Land Rover markings are very subtle... I hate the fact that most ruggedized phones are really basic. I think an Otterbox case for my Blackberry would be a perfect compromise. |
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Craig Spaeth
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 | | 17 Nov 2009 07:49 AM |
| I am very interested in this. I had a sony phone that was complete crap. I finally bought the cheapest Nokia go phone and it has been pretty good. It is amazing the blank stares you get when you go into a phone store and tell them you want a phone that makes and receives calls well and is fairly tough. I don't care about a camera or a keyboard or GPS. I just want my phone to be a phone and to do it well. I am going to check some of these out. the other Craig |
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Danny Stevens
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 | | 17 Nov 2009 08:44 AM |
| Wanted to give advice sinceI actually know cell phones. I have worked in the business sector for two carriers. I worked for Att and Verizon. When it comes to cell phones you get what you pay for. Verizon in most cases will have better service in remote places. Main reason is tower coverage. Att very close second. The rest are great for around town but have spotty coverage outside the metro areas. Sprint is worthless. They do have faster data speeds than anyone but dont work anywhere with hills outside metro. T mobile should be called free mobile because they are the worst. Now back to the 2 big guys. Att use GSM technology and Verizon CDMA. GSM is what most of the rest of the world runs on and any world phone from Verizon or Sprint use dul band tech to use gsm while traveling( still cheaper to buy a sim card and minutes from counry your traveling to). CDMA is a much more efficiant way to use bandwidth. That is why ATT has to switch to CDMA(wideband) in next couple years do to government regulations. Think of it like this= GSM(att) you have a pipe with ten smaller pipes inside. Each caller or data(text) use one of the ten. On the other side CDMA(Verizon) you have that same pipe with ten smaller ones inside. Each little pipe can handle 10 to 100 people per little pipe. Basically the info gets divided up like a puzzle then put back together on the other end. It makes info much safer from people stealing info. Only CDMA system not cracked yet. Thus the FBI, CIA etc use Verizon. That should be enough to be a god reason. The only real advantage to ATT is Iphone until next year when released to every carrier and easier to use worldwide.
I DO NOT WORK FOR ANY CARRIER NOW. I work in Prosthetics and Orthotics. So just giving my two cents.......
WHen It comes to devices the Casio GZOne series is crazy durable ( FOR VERIZON). They can be dropped into a bucket of water sit for a few minutes and still work fine. In fact they have warrenties that cover them from water damage. Only phone with that protection behind you. I have used them quite a bit. Because when we are out there stuff always happens. I like Craig have strayed away from them to have a full keyboard to text etc....... But the new models coming out address that issue with a full keyboard.
Just thoughts.......... soi do as you will..........
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Dale Avery
 Advanced Member Posts:684
 | | 17 Nov 2009 09:40 AM |
| Interesting that this subject just came up here. I am in the market for a new phone also. In fact, I posted a question about ruggedized phones at www.ADVrider.com in the gear section. I am looking for something that is multipurpose and can take the jostling it will get in my truck and on the Dakar. The two (or three) that I am interested in are the Casio Exilim and the Motorola Adventure. The Adventure supposedly is being phased out for a new model whose name I can't recall at the moment. The Casio is supposed to be very rugged, also is a full-featured 5.1 Mpixel camera, and has GPS capabilities. It also meets MILSPEC requirements for dust, vibration, water resistance, etc. Previous Casios have be getting really great reviews and this one is supposed to be even better. It is capable of texting, etc., and lots of other features that I have no interest in. The Motorola story I have heard from my Go Wireless buddies is that a local had his house burn down. He found the melted Motorola Adventure carcass in the ashes. After prying it open, to his surprise he found it still worked! Now that's rugged. But it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of the Casios. My provider is Verizon. I have found that they have the best coverage out here in the west of any of the cell phone companies. Most of my geologist buddies have also transitioned to Verizon over time for this reason. Have any of you guys had the opportunity to play with a Casio Exilim? I'd be interested in hearing what you have to say about it. Dale |
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Danny Stevens
 Basic Member Posts:453
 | | 17 Nov 2009 11:40 AM |
| The Casio Exilim is a decent phone. but lke most cell phones it is sensative to the elements. With the new Casio GzOne is the way to go if you play outdoors. Plus the Exilim is being discontinued soon. I still have a few friends in the business dept at Verizon if anyone has any questions. Basically if you want a phone to last go rugged with the GzONe. I am going to pick one up soon too. I am hard on phones. Had 3 replaced from my error this year alone. I just couldn't do the T9. Now that Qwerty keyboard on new Gzone I am gong with it. Remember when they give specs like hold under water for 30 minutes that was a device to perfect spec. So mainstream devices in regular production are quite as tight.
Plus Casio is the easiest company to deal with warrenty. Samsung not bad. Motor and LG not so nice. Meaning the ease to work in getting a new device. With Verizon they do it for you, but if your on the line as to covered warrenty Casio and Samsung best at bending the line.
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Winston
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 | | 17 Nov 2009 06:18 PM |
| I've been a happy Casio GZone user for the last three years, and been very impressed with it's performance. I've had the Boulder since mid - Summer, and had the previous generation for two years leading up to my Boulder replacement. I've been so confident in the Casio, I even zipped it into the pocket of my swim shorts while walking a Kauai beach a year ago and went in the surf. Later, I just washed off the salt and sand under the tap. I pretty much use it as a simple phone with an occasional text, so have never considered a key pad an important part of my cell phone. I didn't think a keyboard would ever come to a Casio GZone, but will now have to check it out. |
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Terrance Bailey
 Basic Member Posts:352
 | | 17 Nov 2009 09:39 PM |
| i have had the GzOne for about a year now. usualy i go through atleast two phones a year. i am very happy with this. i have dropped it multipule times off of the aircraft onto pavement, it has been in an outside pocket while working in the rain and it gets soaked. a superficial piece on the face plate has broken off and there are various gouges and scratches but nothing to affect its operation. as far as reception, i was able to send a txt from the summit of Mt Massive in colorado. i am very happy with it, i send txts a lot but have yet to have a phone with a full keyboard so that option is pretty well transparent to me. i didnt think i would use the gps on my phone but man it is so useful. makes finding places so easy. |
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Todd Eliason
 Veteran Member Posts:3523
 | | 18 Nov 2009 09:51 AM |
| FWIW, I dropped my blackberry Curve out of my jeep at 30mph. after picking up all of the pieces that scattered all over the road, it still works perfectly. I keep my phone in a ziplock bag in my pocket when in the rain. you can still answer and hear, but your voice is a little muted. |
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Ryan Hall 
 Advanced Member Posts:521
 | | 20 Dec 2009 08:13 PM |
| So after a few weeks of searching different phones, I choose to go with the HTC Droid Eris from Verizon. This phone has so many neat features, it makes me wonder how I never thought I would actually use all the features on a smart phone. Just putting it out there that so far this is an outstanding phone. Android OS with Google is a great package. |
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Craig Miller Posts:11803
 | | 20 Dec 2009 08:17 PM |
| Hah! I did the same thing only I went with the Motorola Droid and bought a rubberized case for it. This phone absolutely rocks and blows my last phone (A high end Windows Mobile based phone) out of the water. |
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icefisher45
 Basic Member Posts:208
 | | 21 Dec 2009 02:09 PM |
| I have the Casio Gzone and love it. Dropped it in the water last year ice fishing and it still works great. Haven't decided if I want to upgade it to the the new ones. |
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Isaac Fain WARNING: Pot Stirrer
 Advanced Member Posts:512
 | | 21 Dec 2009 03:33 PM |
| Posted By Todd Eliason on 11/18/2009 9:51 AM
FWIW, I dropped my blackberry Curve out of my jeep at 30mph. after picking up all of the pieces that scattered all over the road, it still works perfectly. I keep my phone in a ziplock bag in my pocket when in the rain. you can still answer and hear, but your voice is a little muted.[/quote] Oh this is funny! Me too! I laid my palm treo up on the dash of the JK and took off with the windows down. The tweeters are called "tombstone" speakers up on the dash because of their shape. well, they make a great pinball bouncer for things sliding off the dash. i rounded a corner, phone hit the tombstone and flew right on out onto the pavement. got it back together and it still works! |
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Todd Eliason
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 | | 21 Dec 2009 06:45 PM |
| Posted By Isaac Fain on 12/21/2009 3:33 PM Posted By Todd Eliason on 11/18/2009 9:51 AM
FWIW, I dropped my blackberry Curve out of my jeep at 30mph. after picking up all of the pieces that scattered all over the road, it still works perfectly. I keep my phone in a ziplock bag in my pocket when in the rain. you can still answer and hear, but your voice is a little muted.[/quote] Oh this is funny! Me too! I laid my palm treo up on the dash of the JK and took off with the windows down. The tweeters are called "tombstone" speakers up on the dash because of their shape. well, they make a great pinball bouncer for things sliding off the dash. i rounded a corner, phone hit the tombstone and flew right on out onto the pavement. got it back together and it still works!
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Ike, I swear you could be my brother. We should have a DNA analysis done on our livers to see if we were separated at birth. (hijack off) |
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Andy Berglund Tacoma, WA
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 | | 26 Dec 2009 05:54 PM |
| Why don't you give me $50 bucks and I'll tell you both the same thing?
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