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William Brady



02/08/2009 1:18 PM Alert 

Hello Everyone.  Hope the weather isn't too harsh up there, S Cal is soaking and cold. Has anyone seen a message "radiator outlet thermistor Low voltage"  (code p1117) It is driving me crazy.  

Craig Miller
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02/08/2009 1:53 PM Alert 
I haven't seen it, but isn't just saying that your thermostat, or the electrical connection to your thermostat is bad?

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William Brady



02/08/2009 2:08 PM Alert 

Thank you for the quick response Craig, this model does not have an outlet temperature thermistor as do the later 4.4 BMW engines!

Craig Miller
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02/08/2009 2:33 PM Alert 
You are reading the generic definition. The Land Rover definition of that code is in the right hand column of the code table. It sounds too me like you still have a problem with your temp sensor. Don't let the overly specific generic description be a red-herring though.

Land Rover never used a 4.4l BMW Engine in a Discovery II. The final production year of Discovery II had a 4.6l Rover V8.




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William Brady



02/08/2009 3:59 PM Alert 

Sorry for the confusion, this is a Range Rover.   95-99 vehicles had separate sensors for the gauge and the ECU. The 99-02 vehicles had a dual sensor, temp sensor (for the gauge) and a thermistor for the ECU. 2003 models with the 4.4 used an electronic thermostat.  This system had the manifold thermistor (monitoring rad inlet temp, and a lower radiator thermistor (monitoring rad outlet temp)  the resultant opened or closed the electronic thermostat.  it is quite difficult to keep up with the constant "changes"  from BMW and then Ford!

Craig Miller
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02/08/2009 4:37 PM Alert 
I don't have an experience with the newer Rangies, though the 4.6l P38 is very similar to my 4.6l DII. Maybe one of the techs will jump in and give you some solid info.

Craig

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Nevak Risew



02/08/2009 7:44 PM Alert 
I don't know anything about the P38s either. Sorry!

I find: Thermostat reading below -33oC (-27oF) and on another site: P1117 Engine Coolant Temp. Signal Out-Of-Range Low

Pretty unlikely temperatures unless you were in the Midwest recently. Have you cleaned the connections to the sensor and checked the wiring? Beyond that, if it were me, I'd replace the sensor and go from there. Best of luck!
William Brady



02/08/2009 10:00 PM Alert 

Thank you for the response, on any standard obd car the generic code P1117 indicates a faulty sensor or a "stuck open" thermostat, this car has an additional switch at the bottom hose but no wiring for it anywhere in the harness.  

Craig Miller
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02/08/2009 10:33 PM Alert 
I don't know jack, but why let that prevent me from posting...

If OBDII is reporting temps, then there has to be a sensor somewhere. Back to the RAVE for some more reading?

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