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Craig Miller
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11/27/2007 4:48 PM Alert 
LOL. That would be bad news Nik. Hope it was summertime.

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Nikolas Olguin



11/27/2007 4:59 PM Alert 
Once in May, once in September - they were equally uncomfortable ;)
Roger Carr



11/27/2007 5:04 PM Alert 
I remember that

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Andy Berglund



11/27/2007 8:07 PM Alert 
that sucks nik. scott forgot his pad once. i doubt he'll do it again

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David Buchanan



12/07/2007 12:00 AM Alert 
One thing I learned up in Alaska while stationed there was when it gets cold, about a half hour before I hit the sack I boil some water and fill a Nalgene up and screw the cap on real tight. Then I drop it in the bottom of my sleeping bag and let it do its magic. By the time I crawl in the sack it's nice and toasty.

Another I thing I learned was to sleep in my skivvies. Learned that at Artic Weather training in King Salmon, Alaska. We have a tendency to want to stay fully clothed when it's cold, but for some reason for me that always kept me shivering. Stripping down I was always a little chilly at first but then warmed right up.

Oh, and the Nalgene bottle ... I used that trick on my last peak-bag in Alaska before I left. It was 8 degrees outside and we camped on a snowpack over a foot deep. My Nalgene was still warm in the morning

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Roger Carr



12/07/2007 10:28 AM Alert 
David, I've been told that too, it's not necesarily good to bundle up with layers.

I go usually just go down to wicking long johns and some wool socks, if I"m really cold I'll throw on a hoody or beanie to keep my head warm.

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Craig Miller
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12/07/2007 10:38 AM Alert 
I like my North Face tent booties to keep my feet warm.

I have the Big Agnes 0 degree sleeping pad and it works pretty well. I slept on the snow in a bivvy sack with it when we were stuck on 4W695 and did well.

One of the more important things is to resist the urge to drink alcohol when it is really cold. That makes the biggest difference of all IMHO.

Craig

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Peter Carey



12/07/2007 1:39 PM Alert 
One of the more important things is to resist the urge to drink alcohol

that's just crazy talk

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Roger Carr



12/07/2007 3:24 PM Alert 
Ok I haven't heard that before. Why do/did the St. Bernards in the alps carry alcohol then?

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Craig Miller
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12/07/2007 3:46 PM Alert 

When you drink, the blood flows from your core to the surface of the skin making you flush and feeling warm. This gives the impression that a "little sip to warm up" is true... which is probably why they carried alcohol.  Unfortunately modern research shows that since your core gets colder when drinking you are at greater risk of hypothermia. Combined with the fact that your natural reflex to shiver when you get cold is slowed by alcohol, you put yourself at real risk if the temperature is really cold.


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Peter Carey



12/07/2007 3:57 PM Alert 
Like I said; crazy talk.

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Todd Eliason
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12/07/2007 4:07 PM Alert 

I thought the St Bernards with Alcohol was more of a last meal type gesture... "If your lost in the cold and a dog offers you a drink, take it, cause your a goner anyway" type of thing...

As far as the rationality of alcohol making you colder,.. Hmmnnn, stone cold sober or not sober cold? The truck has a heater,.. pass the margaritas... WooHoo! 

That's why you bring a 0deg bag when you probably only need a 20deg one, isn't it?


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Roger Carr



12/10/2007 12:23 PM Alert 

Ok that makes sense, and I learned something new.

 


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John Herrick



12/27/2007 7:14 PM Alert 
I'm old and never plan to carry a sleeping bag any further than I have to so it was fitting that I get something that was good in cold weather but was as close to my king size at home as possible. Enter the Cabela's Magnum 44 which is a 15# monster 44 x90 inches and good to -20*. While Tim was in the tent next to me on that trip in November thinking about a new bag, I was toasty warm in my skivvies, glad I hadn't had too many beers since I didn't want to have to get up until morning.

While this is like the Hummer H1 of sleeping bags, it really is nice for true car camping where room is not critical once you get to camp. I use it in the fall/winter/early spring and with the zipped in fleece blanket it works for 3 seasons if there is a chance it will be cold. Otherwise I bring bags that don't look a sasquatch could use it.

For those more active, I'm sure 2 could find things to do in just one bag.

Tony Sims



02/08/2008 7:57 PM Alert 

I just picked up a 0 degree Columbia bag, "The Zone"  from the employee store.  I got the standard size, thinking my 5'10", 185 lb arse would be fine in that size.  It's great in length, but as I feared, a mummy style bag makes me feel like I'm, well, a mummy.  I'm a sprawler, having my legs bound together  and my arms pinned in is a guarantee of no sleep.  The problem is not that it;s smaller than other bags; it's that it's the same, and that's why I've never bought a mummy bag.

Unfortunately, I can't order bags through the store because it's a licensed product, we don't manufacture them ourselves.  I can only choose from what the store stocks.  They have the oversize version of this bag, but I doubt that is going to make much difference in silhouette, only length.

If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to pass on this bag at my cost, which is about $50.  Otherwise I'll return it.

 


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