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Todd Eliason
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04/20/2007 9:23 AM Alert 
We'll see once I get it. I am hopeful it will be near EaziAwn quality. As for design of the new model, he worked closely with some Toyota guys who gave input on features they wanted and where quality needed improvement. The fact that it looks like the others is a necessity IMO. I have first hand experience with the Oasis line that people just don;t want to stray from what they know, even if it is a better product for their needs. As the old sales cliche goes, first you need to convince to be equal before you can convince to be better.

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Dan Cronin
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04/20/2007 10:49 AM Alert 
I have the big green mushroom dome that Peter gave me that would foot the bill.
Free ;)

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Peter Carey



04/20/2007 11:06 AM Alert 
Yes! It would!

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Michael Kronmal



04/20/2007 12:17 PM Alert 
  1. I like the ease of a rooftop tent.
  2. I hate the idea of being cooped up in one during rain (where to cook?).
  3. The D110 has a lower center of gravity then our lifed Discos.
  4. I would probably forget it was a rooftop when having to pee in the middle of the night.
  5. Unloading after a trip is more difficult with the rooftop unit.
  6. Rooftop tents have a high "wow" factor.
  7. If you camp with a dog, how do they get up there?

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04/20/2007 12:30 PM Alert 

Here's an answer to some of your points.

#2. T-Top!   Where to cook is down below just like in a normal tent.  Plenty of ventilation and before you say "yeah, but all the fumes go up" this is no different than cooking in a normal tent when it rains.  Those sides come off too. 

#3 Hay!  My truck's lifted too!!   And as I recall, you had a lot of stuff in Quilomene AND two water cans (maybe one water and one fuel, maybe more) on top of your truck.  Those water cans are 40lbs each.  But alas, if I truely do have a lower center of gravity, I'm happy.

#4. Yeah, but you'ld only do that once before you remembered.    There's a whole thread on Expedition Portal about people using nalgene bottles to take care of that need, including links to adapters for women folk to do the same.  Personally, I'll climb down the ladder or just go off the side of the truck.

#5. This I don't under stand.  Flip it open and get the sleeping bags out (no need for pads).  If it's wet and you need to drive the truck then yes, you would have some issues.  But I hope to have a pulley system in the roof of the garage eventually so I can lift it off when I don't need it.

#6 Yes, it's indeed a luxury and not really needed.  But it does make life easier on the trail

#7 With the T-Top version I'll tie the dogs to the trailer hitch and they'll have beds down there.  Or they'll be inside the truck where they ride.  I thought about this for Craig but the little white fluffball (notice how I didn't call him Furcicle???!?!)has a cage and I image he'll be in the truck.

After watching something like the Eezi-Awn get setup initially, I'll be happy come camping time.  If nothing else, it'll be cool to roll up to a rest stop on a long distance trip and have a comfy place to catch a quick 30 minute nap.  For that, it takes 2-3 minutes to setup.  I've slept in the car enough to know that a solid 30 minute nap on a good mattress helps a lot on roadtrips. 
The other cool thing is how dark it is inside.  You could sleep in long after the sun comes up as long as it's not too baking.
So now, everyone be a good consumer and go buy one!!

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Craig Miller
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04/20/2007 1:28 PM Alert 
Yeah, Khuno sleeps in his crate next to our bed at home. When we went camping, I put him on the forward section of the roofrack next to the tent with a tarp over the top. He was very happy. In fact he slept better camping than he does at home.

Eventually, if we stop using the crate he'll sleep tied up underneath the truck.

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Craig Miller
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04/20/2007 1:32 PM Alert 
Posted By Dan Cronin on 04/20/2007 10:49 AM
I have the big green mushroom dome that Peter gave me that would foot the bill.
Free ;)


My parents said they have a couple that they don't use anymore.  I'll check those out, and also try yours out.  I like the price.  I know it does poorly in the wind, but is it dry?

Craig

 

 


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Rick Lindgren



04/20/2007 1:48 PM Alert 
Posted By Craig Miller on 04/20/2007 1:32 PM


My parents said they have a couple that they don't use anymore.  I'll check those out, and also try yours out.  I like the price.  I know it does poorly in the wind, but is it dry?

Craig

 

 



It's dry as long as it remains in your garage. 

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Todd Eliason
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04/20/2007 4:14 PM Alert 


Benefit to Nalgene type bottles (and Gatorade bottles) is you don't even need to get out of the sleeping bag to us it, just lift to your knees and be sure of where you are pointing. Having perfected this maneuver I wouldn't go outside even in a ground tent during the middle of the night. Just too easy to keep warm and not get out in the rain/snow etc...

Just make sure you label it VERY WELL, and keep it in a designated location in the tent to avoid confusion when you get thirsty. I have not made that mistake, yet, but am extremly careful not to crave Gatorade at night.

Todd
There's a whole thread on Expedition Portal about people using nalgene bottles to take care of that need

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Peter Carey



04/23/2007 1:08 PM Alert 
We got the tent out of it's box yesterday and played with it on the garage floor. It'll take some practice to get it set up quickly but looks to fit the bill.


One disappointment was my thought that the mattress would be close to the overall size. the length is listed as 8' when folded out, but the mattress is maybe 6.75'. Which makes it hard for Sabrina to ly sideways as planned. She still fits when facing the opposite direction from Kim and I, but that got me back to being curious about the tent you're supposed to get this week Todd. For that price, a 'kids' tent might be an option especially if it means more sleepful nights away from the Mad Wiggler.

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Craig Miller
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05/07/2007 12:59 PM Alert 

Todd pointed out the Oasis 5.3 tent to me.  Nobody in the US is distributing them right now, but they look perfect for Julie, Soren, and I.  The dog can sleep under the truck or in his crate on the roofrack (If he'll fit).

The Oasis 5.3 is 7.9 feet wide, 8.5 feet long, and only 61 pounds.  For comparison, my roofrack flooring alone is 35 pounds (don't know how much the rack weighs).  It can be mounted on gutter mount Yakima bars instead of the existing roofrack to keep the total weight low, and access it via my existing roofrack ladder.

By storing 3 sleeping bags, pillows, and foam core pads inside the tent I can free up a fair amount of cargo space too.  I usually store these items in dry bags on the roofrack as is.  Storing them in the tent, already setup, makes setup/teardown of the campsite a breeze. 

Having slept in the Oasis 2 already, I think I'm sold on getting this tent.  I just need to figure out how to pay for it now.  A roofrack may be for sale soon.   Hmmm.... what else can I sell that's in my garage?

 


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Peter Carey



05/07/2007 1:02 PM Alert 
7.9' wide? jeepers! that should be plenty of room.
if no one distributes it, where do you get it?

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Craig Miller
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05/07/2007 1:04 PM Alert 
They sell it in France. Todd is looking into getting one here. If not, I'll make arrangements with my sister, her fiance, or a friends friend who lives in France to get one and ship it to me.

Craig

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Peter Carey



05/07/2007 1:11 PM Alert 
Has Julie tried it out?

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Craig Miller
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05/07/2007 1:47 PM Alert 
Nope. Thus the "I *think* I'm sold on it". She likes the idea of the roofrack tent, but I want to get her to sleep in one before I start dropping that kind of coin on one. They are very comfortable though.

Craig

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Rick Lindgren



05/07/2007 2:21 PM Alert 
Holy cats!! The pricing on that website is almost $2,000! Yikes!

At least you will have a nice place to live if you get kicked out of the house ever.

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Craig Miller
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05/07/2007 2:31 PM Alert 
Yeah, I'm obviously not going to buy one if I have to spend 2k. When I shop, I first find what I want (feature-wise), then find out who makes products with that feature set, then figure out how to get it at a price I'm willing to pay. If it is too much, then I wait until it is cheaper, find one used, refurbished, or just don't buy one.

Rooftop tents are extremely overpriced items in general. I never have understood why they sell for so much. Most of them are made with the same old fashioned materials that were used on my parents leaky canvas Coleman tent 25 years ago.

Craig

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Isaac Fain



05/07/2007 2:32 PM Alert 
... because they can

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Craig Miller
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05/09/2007 7:58 PM Alert 
I'm looking into a group buy for the Oasis 5.3 tent either through Todd or direct from the manufacturer. If you like this tent, but are unsure because of the price, send me a pm and I'll let you know what the group buy price will be once the details get firmed up.


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Davis M



05/11/2007 12:27 PM Alert 

Here's another option.  Euro-cottonball stylee, sweet.

 

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