Craig Miller Title Sponsor


 | | 05/05/2009 12:26 PM |
Alert | I'm looking at the new Netbooks that are coming out and I'm getting really excited. Three new models in particular are really cool:
Asus t101h - Convertible between laptop and touchscreen tablet, integrated GPS, Atom N270 processor, 10" screen. Should sell for less than $1000 Hopefully close to $800. Asus 91 - 8.9" screen same specs as T101h but a slower processor. I'm not sure if the processor will be fast enough for Overland Navigator yet. ~$500 Gigabyte M912 convertible in black
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Dale Avery


 | | 05/05/2009 1:39 PM |
Alert | Hey guys, thanks for the help on evaluating the screens. I will certainly take you up on that. Right now, i am interested in trying something like one of the excellent homebrew setups shown herer. I didn't know one could buy the RAM tray and ball mounts separately (dumb me!). It would be pretty easy for me to make a plate mount that would bolt to the PS seat mount. for those who have done so, how easy is it to disconnect the base of the pipe from the lower ball mount, so that one can remove the upper portion of the assembly when the computer is not in use? My Taco comes with the ablity to turn off the PS airbag. thought that was a very common feature. So while off-roading, I don't have to worry about smacking a stump, rock, etc., and setting off the airbag. Going down the road is a different situation. Good thing I primarily solo while off-roading. As an aside, the ASUS R2H works incredibly well on overcast days. I have turned off most of the executable files that load up on startup and hog memory. This makes the computer work a lot better also. think I will also try a light cushion between the base of the computer and my dash. The suction mount works O.K., but think it would be safer to let the computer rest lightly on the dash. | | After 35+ years running on four wheels, I've gone to the dark side and am playing on two. 2002 BMW F650GS Dakar dualsport 2006 BMW R1150RT sport touring bike | |
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Nevak Risew


 | | 05/05/2009 1:49 PM |
Alert | Dale-
If you're talking about the RAM ball mount like in the pic I posted on 5/1 it takes about 5 seconds to remove the whole assembly. Just unscrew the T-handle thingy, and lift the clamp off the ball. I take mine in and out as needed, and just leave it all in one piece. Easy as pie! This balls are rubber coated too, so there is good vibration absorption and slight flex to it. | | | |
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Andy Berglund


 | | 05/05/2009 2:36 PM |
Alert | So Craig, do you not believe that the 1.6GHz Atom processor doesn't have the muscle for Overland Navigator? I haven't looked into the specs of the models you listed. Intel is coming out with a new Atom but its only rated to 1.66Ghz; what's the minimum processor speed for ON?
What's really going to be cool is when some of the cell-phone processor based netbooks get here from overseas. They are even more battery efficient so if they can be made to work with a decent OS they would be even cooler. AT&T is doing a trial in ATL in which you can buy a subsidized netbook with a 2 year contract. They have limits on data per plan, though. Hopefully they'll roll that out across the country without the data caps and better deals on the netbooks.
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Craig Miller Title Sponsor


 | | 05/05/2009 2:44 PM |
Alert | Andy,
In general the Atom processors do fine. There are a variety of factors that affect overall system performance such as screen resolution, operating system (XP vs. Vista), background applications, etc so it's hard to give a one size fits all answer to "minimum system requirements".
I run Overland Navigator on a 1.0 GHz Epia processor w/ 1GB or RAM and a stripped down version of Windows XP. It runs well, but could be a hair snappier for my tastes. All things being equal, the Atom processors should be snappier than what I'm running now.
On the 10" Netbooks above, I'm glad to see that they are putting a faster processor in it.
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Alex Kogan Member Sponsor


 | | 05/05/2009 2:44 PM |
Alert | I have no problem runnign National Geographic Topo and Google Earth and some other junk concurrently on my 6 year old Toshiba. Laptops/tablets of this vintage can be easily had for $200-300 in very good shape. Only had 768 Mgs of RAM
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Geoff .


 | | 05/05/2009 3:06 PM |
Alert | As another data point, I'm running Overland Navigator on my 5-year-old Fujitsu P1120, which has only 256 MB of RAM. It's not snappy, but still perfectly usable. 
I just learned that its Transmeta Crusoe processor isn't even x86 compatible -- it's running Windows under a software virtual machine! --Geoff | | 2004 Sportsmobile 4x4 | |
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AJ Lightfoot


 | | 05/05/2009 3:16 PM |
Alert | My Acer netbook has a 1.6ghz Atom processor and it runs Overland Navigator just fine. It's got 1gb ram with Home Edition XP. Never have any lags or issues. I'm working on a way to stabilize my mount and make a quick disconnect for it so I can remove it as needed.
As for the battery on mine, it's usually in the 4-5 hour neighborhood of lasting running most apps steadily. I did find a 12v adapter for it I plan on hooking to a Power block in the near future. It never ends.... haha.
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David Ramirez


 | | 05/05/2009 3:56 PM |
Alert | Hi all,
New person here.
Was just sending Craig a picture of my setup as I promised him one after he helped me out with Overland Navigator and my Garmin GPS.
Just looking in here and saw this thread. Here's my setup (2006 Toyota Tacoma Access Cab) 
Asus EeePC 1000HE on RAM mount. Yaesu FT-7800R on RAM mount, Garmin GPS on RAM mount, and I have an iPod setup down there somewhere too. As for running programs. It runs Overland Navigator great, as well as Oziexplorer.
I can hook up the Asus either through 12V or a 110 outlet I installed in the cab via the stock inverter that comes in the truck.
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Andy Berglund


 | | 05/05/2009 4:45 PM |
Alert | With all this stuff we're adding to the cabs, I'm going to need an additional cupholder on my netbook.
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Jay Erickson Member Sponsor


 | | 05/06/2009 1:59 AM |
Alert | Isn't that what the cd/dvd tray is for?  | | Traded in all my project vehicles for my 2009 Xterra, not an ounce of buyers remorse. | |
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Craig Miller Title Sponsor


 | | 05/06/2009 8:21 AM |
Alert | Posted By Craig Miller on 05/05/2009 12:26 PM
I'm looking at the new Netbooks that are coming out and I'm getting really excited. Three new models in particular are really cool:
Asus t101h - Convertible between laptop and touchscreen tablet, integrated GPS, Atom N270 processor, 10" screen. Should sell for less than $1000 Hopefully close to $800.
Asus 91 - 8.9" screen same specs as T101h but a slower processor. I'm not sure if the processor will be fast enough for Overland Navigator yet. ~$500
Gigabyte M912 convertible in black
Some pictures of the new netbooks... and I forgot to mention it in my original post, but thanks to Chuck for pointing these out to me.
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Craig Miller Title Sponsor


 | | 08/06/2009 8:48 PM |
Alert | Posted By David Ramirez on 05/05/2009 3:56 PM Hi all,
New person here.
Was just sending Craig a picture of my setup as I promised him one after he helped me out with Overland Navigator and my Garmin GPS.
Just looking in here and saw this thread. Here's my setup (2006 Toyota Tacoma Access Cab) 
Asus EeePC 1000HE on RAM mount. Yaesu FT-7800R on RAM mount, Garmin GPS on RAM mount, and I have an iPod setup down there somewhere too. As for running programs. It runs Overland Navigator great, as well as Oziexplorer.
I can hook up the Asus either through 12V or a 110 outlet I installed in the cab via the stock inverter that comes in the truck.
David
Can you post a photo of it running in "GPS" mode?
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terrance bailey


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Craig Miller Title Sponsor


 | | 12/06/2009 5:19 PM |
Alert | Terrance,
That looks really good. Lenovo is the IBM laptop division which is famous for making very good laptops. The specs pan out, the touchscreen menu app looks good, semi-ruggedized is great news, and size/price/etc all look good.
The only downs to it are: - No built-in GPS - Screen isn't sunlight visible (are kids really going to take it outside?) - Aesthetics. Wish it was in all black with a few rubber bumps on ther corners to "toughen it up"
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terrance bailey


 | | 12/12/2009 9:46 AM |
Alert | the lack of gps can be fixed by a usb gps antenna correct? no installed hardware is required? as far as the astetics i can get over them. i would prefer it be black but for half the price of ost of them i have seen i think i can live with it. i dont know how annoying the screen would be though. it might get to me after a while but again with the price. | | | |
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Craig Miller Title Sponsor


 | | 12/12/2009 11:47 AM |
Alert | Yep, an external USB GPS would work great.
Note that those external USB magnetic mount GPS units are full GPS receivers (GPSr) and not just an antenna. A magnetic antenna requires you to have a GPSr to plug the antenna into. They look the same, but you want a full blown GPS Reciever. My suggeston would be the Globalsat BU-353. I have them listed in my webstore, but I don't actually sell them. The order is filled by an Amazon affiliate who I've never met. At $36 you can't beat the price though. Personally I've drilled a hole through my roof and have a Mighty GPS Weatherproof GPS Reciever... If I ever decide to replace it with something else, I'll just mount an external through hull antenna there instead.
I understand completely on the looks and the screen. I have lots of people running regular laptop screens in their vehicle and they all seem to be pretty happy with it. Maybe you can paint the case with Herculiner. ;)
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terrance bailey


 | | 12/20/2009 11:46 AM |
Alert | i was about to order the tablet i found earlier then i stumbled on this on ebay. it should be waiting for me when i get home cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll | | | |
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Larry Grubbs


 | | 12/20/2009 4:01 PM |
Alert | Posted By Craig Miller on 12/06/2009 5:19 PM
Terrance,
That looks really good. Lenovo is the IBM laptop division which is famous for making very good laptops.
Just to clear this up, IBM sold off the Thinkpad (IBM's laptop division) to Lenovo about 4 years ago. Lenovo is not any part of IBM. My company still uses Lenovo laptops since we're an IBM Business Partner. I personally think that quality has dropped significantly since the sale to Lenovo compared to what it used to be. I once dropped one from 6' onto concrete and it booted right up, no problems. The new ones I've destroyed two in just under two years. That being said I almost bought myself one a few weeks ago on special. | | Larry 2000 DII ColumbiaOverland.com | |
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