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Craig Miller
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11/07/2006 1:45 PM Alert 


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Dan Cronin
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11/07/2006 1:46 PM Alert 
Surely there must be something you can attach to your Mile Marker to grind coffee

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Craig Miller
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11/07/2006 1:47 PM Alert 
Warn has a new winch out that is both a winch and an air compressor. I bet we could make a wicked dry cappuccino with an air compressor.

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Dan Cronin
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11/07/2006 1:57 PM Alert 
Peter, you're getting "that way" again.......You know? (whisper voice) all, D-web-ish......... :-)

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Mike Rupp



11/07/2006 2:10 PM Alert 
Peter, removing a running V8 engine and replacing it with an expensive, unproven alternative puts you in the same place that I am: off the deep end.

All this banter from someone who spent a small fortune on a down filled air mattress? LOL

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Peter Carey



11/07/2006 2:35 PM Alert 
see, that's the funny thing. I never said I'm not off the deep end. Obviously I am. You make two good points. I've got plenty more.

Why you insisted you weren't is beyond me. This isn't about me, it's about you.

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Mike Rupp



11/07/2006 3:17 PM Alert 
Peter, I don't think we're on the same wavelength here.  When did I insist that I wasn't off the deep end?  In the quotes below, I either explicitly state or imply that I am off the deep end.  Are we clear?

       "Peter, removing a running V8 engine and replacing it with an expensive, unproven alternative puts you in the same place that I am: off the deep end."

       "
Peter, I think anyone that owns a Land Rover is officially off the deep end." 

This isn't a thread about rational choices or making average coffee.  The title is "Best cup of Joe".  Craig asked & I answered. 

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Craig Miller
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11/07/2006 3:31 PM Alert 
I'm the one who said it was sane... I still think a french press and a manual grinder is a very sane coffee trail solution. I guess the off the deep end part would be that Mike knows which grinder makes better coffee, but I guess I feel that if you are going to make a purchase you might as well make the best possible purchase. So, I might be alone, including Mike, but I don't think Mike is insane at all. Then again, I might be blinded by my addiction to coffee.

--Craig

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Peter Carey



11/07/2006 5:30 PM Alert 
.....going through my notes Mike does in fact say e's gone off the deep end. Craig's the one with an indefensible position here.

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Craig Miller
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11/07/2006 5:47 PM Alert 
Yep I'm the one whose so crazy he doesn't even realize it. Woo Hoo!!! I'm gonna go run naked through my neighborhood now.

No, not really.

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Isaac Fain



11/07/2006 7:28 PM Alert 
Posted By Craig Miller on 11/07/2006 5:47 PM
Yep I'm the one whose so crazy he doesn't even realize it. Woo Hoo!!! I'm gonna go run naked through my neighborhood now.

No, not really.


note to self:  if moving to Mt. Vernon, good drapes a must.  


French press makes a great cup of coffee but my real passion is for espresso.   Ultimate trail coffee would be to get an inverter so I can bring my ultimate home coffee, made with our La Pavoni manual pull espresso machine.   La Pavoni are such badasses, they even have Italian Opera that automatically starts when you visit their website

www.lapavoni.com/

Here is a pic of our lever style machine:



With practice you too can learn to pour "God Shots" as I have after two years of refining my technique.   Subtle variations in pressure applied to the lever are key in producing a good shot.  The lever offers very precise tactile feedback that allows you to "read" the grind, and being able to compensate for granule size and humidity.   Because the coffee is manually pressed, it does not splatter into the shot glass and thus does not disturb the crema as it settles throughout the pour.   Having control over the pour also allows the barista to accurately create fabulous ristrettos, a perfect compliment to dessert without the normal caffiene levels found in a full pour.

Unfortunately I use a rather generic Starbucks burr grinder which is an 80% solution, but I have yet to decide on its replacement.

For beans, insist on the best:    Espresso Vivace.   Their beans are all organic and make the most scrumptious coffee evaarrrr.   The 2nd best in town is also very good, Caffe d'Arte.  

www.espressovivace.com/

www.caffedarte.com/


Thus, by the expertise gained in the past 10 years of being a raging Seattelite coffee addict, I do hereby decree that Espresso Vivace beans as rendered by La Pavoni to be the ultimate coffee available, whether on trail or in your kitchen.


Neener - Neener - Neener  

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Peter Carey



11/07/2006 9:30 PM Alert 
Mike's officially back in the shallow end after the tidal wave created by Isaac's canonball has cleared out most of the pool.
LOL

I shoulda got you some of that organic Costa Rican organic beans we had. someone down there said it was really good.
that's the end of my input.

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Mike Rupp



11/07/2006 10:03 PM Alert 
Isaac, I'm not sure what kind of wattage the La Pavoni draws, but you'd be looking around $250 or so to get a high wattage inverter. I say go for it. Life is too short to drink inferior coffee.

A few years back when I got mildly interested in buying an espresso machine, I was really interested in the La Pavoni pump machines. For a replacement grinder, I think you need to get a manual burr grinder. A manual grinder would perfectly complement the manual nature of the pump machine.

Peter, are "organic Costa Rican organic beans" more organic than conventional organic beans? LOL

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Peter Carey



11/07/2006 10:16 PM Alert 
you've never been to Costa Rica, have you?

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Rick Lindgren



11/08/2006 10:03 AM Alert 
Hey, does MD 20/20 still count as a "wine"? You don't even need a glass or cup for that. Straight from the bottle is the best way to enjoy Mad Dog.

And if you drink enough of it, any coffee will taste good in the morning.

Oh, yeah. It's also a pretty thick glass and you probably won't give a *&^% anyway if a few bottles break.

Hopefully that will help everyone out.

Rick

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Isaac Fain



11/08/2006 10:07 AM Alert 
Posted By Mike Rupp on 11/07/2006 10:03 PM
Isaac, I'm not sure what kind of wattage the La Pavoni draws, but you'd be looking around $250 or so to get a high wattage inverter. I say go for it. Life is too short to drink inferior coffee.

A few years back when I got mildly interested in buying an espresso machine, I was really interested in the La Pavoni pump machines. For a replacement grinder, I think you need to get a manual burr grinder. A manual grinder would perfectly complement the manual nature of the pump machine.

Peter, are "organic Costa Rican organic beans" more organic than conventional organic beans? LOL


I had to lookup the draw on this thing - and not surprisingly, it's 1000 watts.   Doable with a well made mid-range converter in the price range you list.   Hmmmm....

The manual grinder is a cool idea.  I'll have to look into this - you've obviously picked up on my preference for doing things the hard way

To replace our starbucks grinder,  I've been lusting after the Mazzer Mini for some time now.  The mini features a doser (dispenser) that neatly chunks out measured amounts of coffee directly from the catch-bin.   To be honest, there are enough variations in getting a decent pull with the manual Pavoni's that make having a decent grinder a must for a tenable daily solution.    After using it for a few months and getting comfortable with a roaster and the tamp necessary to get a good pull, the process does become semi-autonomous with a consistent grind.   At $500 the Mazzer is a steep commitment but, given the anchor holding me underwater at the deep end of the pool, it's inevitable that I'll have one





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Isaac Fain



11/08/2006 10:19 AM Alert 
Posted By Rick Lindgren on 11/08/2006 10:03 AM
Hey, does MD 20/20 still count as a "wine"? You don't even need a glass or cup for that. Straight from the bottle is the best way to enjoy Mad Dog.

And if you drink enough of it, any coffee will taste good in the morning.

Oh, yeah. It's also a pretty thick glass and you probably won't give a *&^% anyway if a few bottles break.

Hopefully that will help everyone out.

Rick

During the early to mid 90's In Stillwater, Oklahoma, this elixer was known universally as "Mad Isaac 20/20".     It was usually the "sipper" drink of choice after bombing a 40 of Crazy Horse.

   


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Rick Lindgren



11/08/2006 10:30 AM Alert 
Ah, a man who knows the fine things in life

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Scott Brady



12/29/2006 6:33 PM Alert 

I thought I would "perk" this thread up a bit.

My super cool wife just bought me this:

Coffee is all part of a balanced diet: I call it the three C's

1. Coffee
2. Chocolate
3. Cow

The was I look at it, why add years to my life after 70

And since I spend quite a few nights on the trail, I use a french press to make coffee in the morning, or even "cowboy" coffee. Some great ideas on making espresso in camp on this thread too.

 

 


Scott Brady
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Scott Brady



12/29/2006 6:42 PM Alert 

Posted By Mike Rupp on 11/07/2006 10:03 PM

To replace our starbucks grinder,  I've been lusting after the Mazzer Mini for some time now.  The



Mike,

The Mazzer is impressive .  Any recommendation for a grinder / tamper a little less than airfare to Rome? 

Scott Brady
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1995 Discovery 5-speed, cloth
2004 Toyota Tacoma
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