RRC around town about 13 haven't checked highway yet. VW Double Cab about 13 around town 15 on the highway (can't wait to go TDI on this and get mid to upper 20's). 91 Audi Turbo Quattro Wagon 20 in mixed driving and we have seen 26 on the highway even with a stage II chip and almost 300hp. TDI VW Beetle 42 with me drving but my wife regularly gets upper 40's a few tanks at 50 and an all time best at 52.

I like Craig's idea of just not using them.

the other Craig

It's been modded fairly extensively, but not much that you can see with the naked eye.  It's running a LR 300 TDI Diesel.  Of course, I have a hard time keeping 60 up hills.

Yep, a lot of people have chosen to live in the burbs.  We used to ourselves, but decided on our last move to live as close to downtown as possible so we can easily walk where we need to go.  I work from home, for now, but my wife still has to commute each day.  I wish we would have bought a house within walking distance of her work instead.

Like you, I have worn out joints... and find the bike to be a great low-impact alternative.

Other alternatives to walking and biking include the bus, train, car/vanpools, and tele-commuting.  I'm not trying to derail this conversation, just pointing out that the *best* way to save fuel is to drive less; especially in single occupancy vehicles.

Craig

Posted By Scott Williams on 03/22/2010 10:01 AM
Jason,

without seeing your truck I would attribute your mileage difference from Todd's to be mostly the extra unsprung weight on your truck. NATO wheels and MTR is a much heavier combo than what Todd is running. It is asking a whole lot more from a little TDi to turn those from a stand still let alone rolling steady on the freeway. Tire and wheel combos make a huge difference on rover mpg gas and diesel.

Scott,

I think you're right. I have a set of alloys in the garage. Thinking about putting on some A/T's for the summer while I'm just freeway driving/commuting. Save the MT/R's for winter and off-road.

 When people see the pinz...the questions vary: 'Does it float?' ...'What is that?'...'How much do they cost?' ...and some even ask,  'What kind of milage do you get?...Depending on my mood and how the question is asked really determines the answer. Sneering jeep people (some do) do not fare well in the answer department.

As for the milage question,...usually it's... Who cares? Then I smile and tell them the real answer.

Seriously, One does not own a vehicle like this for the milage rating. It's pure love of the vehicle. But to answer the question for you folks, about 11 in town and 15 to 16 on the highway, even pulling a trailer with RTT. Not even a comparison to your LR's but it is not a daily driver and I do love it. It is a lot better than the Mog I used to have that got a wallet draining 8 mpg. So I guess I have moved up.

Cheers

I really envy your 23+ mpg's.

That's awesome Morris!

But you still haven't answered one question for us...  Does it float?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-1980-PINZGAUER-4X4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c538f2edbQQitemZ190380453595QQptZMilitaryQ5fVehicles

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1973-Pinzgauer-712M_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem35a8121cc7QQitemZ230453025991QQptZMilitaryQ5fVehicles

Now i'm drooling!

96 Jeep Cherokee

13-15 around town

18-20 on the highway

I have added about 1,500lb of extras, so I know this doesn't help my situation much.  The RTT also drops things by about 1-2 mpg at higher speeds.  I haven't noticed much of a change when driving around town.

Is that someones house in the background.  That thing is awesome, lots of garage doors for toys!

 

 No Todd, it does not float. There are even holes below the driver and passenger areas to let the water out ( these also let the water in).

These Ebay pinzies have been discussed on the pinz site.  The first is not a pinz anymore, it has a Ford engine and has been made to look like the newer diesel pinzies (notice the Mercedes emblem on the grille, what is he trying to say?) and the second is ok but needs some work. The 6x's are a bit more expensive than the 4x"s, sort of better resale value and they are much more stable off road, When stock, the 4x and 6x originally both have the same size engine.

Ike,

I pulled the NATO rims off and put alloys on with all-terrain tires. I don't use my rig for crawling over rocks. I'm too much of a wimp about bashing it.
I cannot believe the difference in weight between the alloys and the NATO steel wheels. We are talking some serious weight difference. A smart scientific thing to do would have been to put the MT/R's on the alloys and check mileage and then put the all-terrain tires on and compare. I didn't want to pay another changeover fee. Plus, I put the MT/R's on my pickup. Cheaper to buy tires for the Rover than the pickup......

So after one tank, I'm at 21 in town and 24 on freeway. 3 mpg better in town and approximately 2 better on freeway. I will say this, a couple of small hills where I used to shift from Drive to 3rd, the rover takes them.

My rover doesn't look near as tough though.......... But it does drive better on road.